Wiki photos 2014

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by annafl, Mar 5, 2014.

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  1. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries are from the 2004 Croton Society Calendar. They are Aubrey Christian Hybrids, calendar photos submitted by Perry Edge:

    February- Claude Lorraine
    March- Polychrome
    April- Rubens
    May- Mosaic
    June- Corot
    July- Michelangelo
    August- Blotched Corot
    September- Aubrey Christian
    October- Confucius
    November- Norman Rockwell

    Also entered are:

    Marigold/Yellow Duke of Windsor- Perry Edge
    Thomas Hitchcock- Perry Edge
    Fred Sander - Perry Edge

    Check out Perry's new landscape photos page on the 'Crotons in the Landscape forum'

    *** The Aubrey Christian photo entered to me doesn't look like the Aubrey Christian that's already in there. Could some of you look and see what you think?
     
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  2. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Ana, when I saw the photo of Aubrey Christian, I realized that it didn't look like what I have as Aubrey Christian. Mine is similar to what is in the wiki. Problem is, I don't know which is correct.
     
  3. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Well, the "other Aubrey Christian" in the Wiki is my plant. According to my records it was acquired from Jeff Searle. When looking at the newly posted Calendar photos, I noticed that the calendar Aubrey Christian was not the same cultivar as mine. So I am assuming that Marie, Jeff and certainly others have Aubrey Christians that are not the same as the calendar photo.

    I may recall Ray and relayed that the Aubrey Christian photos I posted in an earlier thread were actually Captain Kidd. Both are attractive crotons, here we go with the name game again.

    Curious if Marie or Jeff can recall the source of their examples of "Aubrey Christian"?
     
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  4. Moose

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  5. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries are from the 2006 Croton Society Calendar and were submitted by Perry Edge. Where there are identical photos in the calendars, I do not post them twice in the wiki. Sometimes when there is a month that is not entered, it's either because there was no photo for that month or because it is a duplicate photo from one of the other calendars that's already been entered.

    February- Cronstadt
    March- Exiter
    April- Fishbone
    May- Doris Decker
    June- Tortoise Shell/Turtle Back
    July- Queen of Siam?***
    September- Reliance
    October- Embassy
    November- Puccini
    Bonus Photo- Twist and Point

    ***This photo was titled 'Queen of Siam', however, I think the plant pictured is the REAL King of Siam. Please let me know what you think. I entered it in King of Siam, but I'm not sure I did the right thing.
     
  6. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    I agree with you Anna but other will need to chime in.We have two very different plants with the same name,we will have to choose only one for the Wiki.I vote for the one from the calender also.
     
  7. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Oooooohhh. Maybe others will chime in about Aubrey Christian. Do any of the old society members have any input?

    And I don't know about the calendar photo I put in under King of Siam that says 'Queen of Siam'. Mike, the fact that we have two very different plants for King of Siam is an issue as well. Anyone else have any thoughts about the calendar photo and where it belongs? Maybe I should remove it since it's just so out of sync with the rest.
     
  8. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    The calendar photo of the Aubrey Christian looks nothing like the photo on pg 98 of Dr. Browns book. I see no correction for the A. Christian photo listed for the one in the book. I would say remove the calendar photo. The King Of Siam is known to have 2 different plants with the same name. I see that as being no different as having 1 plant with 2 different and sometimes more names.
     
  9. Judy Glock

    Judy Glock Active Member

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    My Aubrey Christian. A very slow grower, is identical to the one in the Calender. The other pic in the Wiki looks like my Capt Kidd, I got from Jeff about a year ago. Got my Aubrey Christian 7 to 8 years ago at a Croton Society sale in Tampa.
     
  10. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    I checked the wiki photos of C. Kidd and I agree with Judy that the other non calendar photos may not be the real A. Christian. But I see no correction for the book photos. The plot thickens.
     
  11. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Hahahaha! Wow, the fog is really thick at the moment. At least two Aubrey Christians. Is the one on page 98 of Dr. Brown's book a third, or is it like Ron's and Marie's? Could Ron's and Marie's be Captain Kidd?

    And speaking of confusion, I'm still confused about Victor Lemoine. Rick Leitner's plant in the wiki seems to fit the description of the plant. I'm not sure Ron's and David's photos in the wiki fit the description, and they don't look like Rick's to me. Could they be Rubens instead? The leaf shape at least looks like Rubens and the colors seem less like reds and more like they could evolve to be pinks/pastels. Any thoughts?
     
  12. Bullwinkle

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    How about putting it under True King of Siam??A few people already refer to it as that name
     
  13. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Good idea, Mike. I think I will. However, is the one from the Calendar that says 'Queen of Siam' a True King of Siam? That is my other question. I thought it was, so I put it under King of Siam. Take a look if you will. And anyone else, too. Thanks.
     
  14. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Looks exactly the same to me
     
  15. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Ana - The "Victor Lemoine" that I am credited for the photo in the WIKI is not my plant. I believe I found that growing in very heavy shade just west of Jeff's office at his nursery. The name came from the metal tag. Could be a matter of light conditions. The leaf shape looks appropriate.

    Additionally, I picked up a "Victor Lemoine" at one of the Extravaganza sales. Ray Hernandez and I both agreed that it did not look like one. Ray thought it looked more like a Philippine Red. It did not matter to me since I liked the croton.

    Foggy conditions ensue ...

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  16. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    Is the picture in post #8 In the Under the Old oak tree not a victor Lemone ?? It stays pretty close to that color all the time . No reds tho ...
     
  17. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries:

    True King of Siam- I also left the photos under King of Siam to remember that this is the original croton by that name
    Ben Alexander- Ron Kiefert
    Robert Lavalois- Ron Kiefert
    Potter's Pink Veitchii- Ron Kiefert
    October Surprise- Phil Stager
    Noblis/Nobilis- Lamar Sapp
     
  18. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries:

    Leopardia- Lamar Sapp
    Mr. White- Ron Kiefert
     
  19. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries:

    Duke of Windsor- Ron Kiefert
    Reliance- Ron Kiefert
    Maryland- Ron Kiefert
    Pink Lei- Perry Edge
    Johanna Coppinger- Perry Edge
    Lillian Stoffregen- Perry Edge
    Diane- Perry Edge
     
  20. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries:

    Orange Crush- A Judy Glock seedling- Photo by Jim Glock
    Yellow Mrs. Iceton- Perry Edge
    Pride of Winterhaven- Thin leaf form- Perry Edge
    Philadelphia- Perry Edge
     
  21. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries:

    Madam Fernand Kohl- Ron Kiefert
    Arthur Howe- Ron Kiefert
     
  22. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries:

    Davis 14- Mike Woolery
    Jodi S.- Lamar Sapp (a Jerry Shilling hybrid)
     
  23. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries:

    Super California- Bren Funaro and David King
    Caution Light- Lamar Sapp
    Mrs. Robinson/Kelly- David King and Tim O'Donnel
    Kentucky- David King
     

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