Wiki photos 2014

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by annafl, Mar 5, 2014.

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  1. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Starting anew, at Ron's suggestion. The last thread was getting too long.:D

    Today's entries:

    Blotched Wooten's Beauty-Lamar Sapp
    Pitcarin-Lamar Sapp
    Johannis/Angustissimum-Robertico Heredia-Thanks for all the great info, Robertico!:cool:
    Twist and Point-David King
    Yellow Mammie-David King
    Maculatum Katoni-David King
    Suzi Silverado-Randy Weisner
    Wilma-Randy Weisner
    White Ann Rutherford/Island Breeze-Randy Weisner
    Caribbean Star-Randy Weisner
    Pop's Yard-Randy Weisner
    Sunrise-Randy Weisner
    Norwood Beauty-Randy Weisner
     
  2. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    1st pic. Lt. Padgett (asking for a promotion) leaves are 12"X6.5, 2nd and 3rd pic. WHITE CHARLES RUTHERFORD I have posted several times, I finally had I visitor was very confident in this ID.
     

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  3. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Hi Lamar!

    Next time I do Wiki I will definitely trade out the Lt. Paget. If anyone thinks their present plant has grown, obtained better coloring, etc., I'm always happy to trade it out in the wiki, no problem.

    Lamar, I have never seen or even heard of White Charles Rutherford. If anyone can confirm this for us, I will be glad to put it in the wiki, but I'd have to start a new entry, there are no others for comparison. Can anyone help us out?:D
     
  4. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    Kurt if you see this, I think when you had that property over by the boat yards this is one of six rooted cuttings I got from you. It came from you or John at that time. New photo just to show the size of the plant.
     

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  5. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    Anna I meant no disrespect, what you have done with the WIKI is twenty miles north of perfect. That ask for a promotion was an attempt at humor. WCR is very rare I guess and whatever happens with it is fine. Best wishes and hope to see you guys tomorrow.
     
  6. kurt decker

    kurt decker Well-Known Member

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    The charles rutherford i had came from bender, the white was a sport on one of the plants in the nursery. Everything sports yellow/white sooner or later. I gave a white CR back to bender, so he also had it.
     
  7. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Anna, Here is South Pacific with rule for scale for this really small narrow leaf Croton.
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  8. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Hi Scott,

    I am not familiar with South Pacific except for a photo in Frank Brown's book. I'd love to make a new entry for it if others can confirm the id.
     
  9. kwtimo

    kwtimo Well-Known Member

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    Anna, I'm pretty sure Marie is the one who nailed this croton as South Pacific. Scott posted on this plant several months ago.
     
  10. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Thanks, guys, I'll enter these this week sometime. Gonna be busy in the garden today, I hope!:D
     
  11. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Anna, This has to be the smallest leaf Croton that I have seen. It looks to be a much smaller leaf version of Punctatum. Marie said South Pacific, maybe others will chime in. This plant did really well for a small leaf, having no leaf drop this winter.
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  12. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Here's Imelda Marcos aka Lemon Top for the wiki. It's a shame it wasn't putting on a flush of new growth so we could see the yellow flush as well. This plant is part of the collection at Waimea Falls and was IDed by Frank Brown.

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  13. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Ana, here's another one for the wiki Davis 17. It's at Waimea Falls and I think growing in too much sun based on the color and size of the leaves that were buried lower in the plant.

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  14. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Nice Marie. I hope you and Steve had a great trip and brought lots of goodies back.:)
     
  15. kwtimo

    kwtimo Well-Known Member

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    Wow, Marie, that's great stuff. Thanks for sharing these pics. I'm hoping that these might make it into my collection someday!
     
  16. andy

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    starting 2 take off after 2 years
     

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  17. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entries:

    Lt. Paget-Lamar Sapp
    White Charles Rutherford-Lamar Sapp
    South Pacific-Scott McIntosh
    Lemon Top-Marie Nock
    Davis 17-Marie Nock
     
  18. andy

    andy Active Member

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    Marie I got this 4-5 yrs ago this 1st pic is what I was given as yellow top the net 2 are air layers frpm the same plant.
    the last photos are full shade during the winter.
    is this correct or not ?
    thanks. for any help
     

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  19. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Andy, I don't know if Lemon Top and Yellow Top are the same. When my plants get larger, let's compare them.
     
  20. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Andy

    Your plant looks like Yellow Petra and the Connecticut looks like a Stewartii.

    Marie,

    How much light is Imelda Marcos getting? When I was there last, it was in lots of shade. Did you see a plant labeled Noblis Major also at WF park?
     
  21. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Ray, the Imelda Marcos is in the same place - the hedge row near the office. Sorry, I didn't know to look for Noblis Major when we were there, we were looking mostly at aroids. I'll look for it next year.
     
  22. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    Delaware the second char. from page 46 Dr. Brown's book. You can see the rose pet. forming at the base of the leaves.
     

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  23. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Today's entry- Stewartii.:)
     
  24. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    :confused:
    I bumped this to see if anyone has the more colorful version. There is no picture in the wiki of this variety. The only one I have seen is in the book.
     

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  25. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Lamar, mine looks like yours. Years ago I saw really good Delawares at the Edison Estate. I wonder if anyone on the West Coast got some when they were removed?
     
  26. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Maybe it will get better markings as it matures? Some plants seem to take a bit longer to get going.:)
     
  27. Perry Edge

    Perry Edge Active Member

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    these photo reportedly show a White Charles Rutherfor and a Lt. Paget (notice the scalloped leaves). If these ID's are not correct, please, let me know
     

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  28. kurt decker

    kurt decker Well-Known Member

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    Perry, the plant with the scalloped edge is general lawrence. The scalloping is diagnostic on that one. Page 75 of the book is a bad one (publishing mixup). General lawrence is actually the bottom lefthand picture.
     
  29. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Perry, the left hand photo is what Lee used to call Island Breeze (Bradenton Mystery). Bob A. identified it as White Anne Rutherford.

    Marie, I acquired a nice Delaware at a Croton Society meeting years ago. In my records, I have Edison Estate in parenthesis next to the name.
     
  30. Perry Edge

    Perry Edge Active Member

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    Thanks Kurt & Ray for clearing up my confusion.
     
  31. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Ray, I think my Delaware came from you. Was that one your only clone?
     
  32. edric

    edric Active Member

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    Looks great Anna, it dawned on me after I suggested an entire page format, that there was no need for all of that text, what your doing is much more suitable, but perhaps you would like to try a photo gallery? I set up CARIBBEAN STAR for you if you prefer the other method, without the image gallery, I can change it at the click of a mouse, let me know, Ed

    http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/CARIBBEAN_STAR
     
  33. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Looks very nice and professional, Edric. Thanks for the demo.

    Now what do you think, people? Let's hear some opinions!
     
  34. edric

    edric Active Member

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    Thanks Anna, if you want to make it so there's 3 photos in a row, or even four, on the first line in the edit page (below) you can change 2 per row to 3 or 4, but you must also change the pix size, (make it smaller), edric.

    <center><gallery caption="IMAGE GALLERY" perrow="2" widths="450px" heights="450px">
     
  35. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    Looks great to me, if it is not anymore difficult I vote for that style. I will post some for you later when the sun gets a little lower.
     
  36. edric

    edric Active Member

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    Check the page now, I raised the image size from 450 to 500, much better, and an image gallery is half as much typing for Anna, Ed
     
  37. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Looks fantastic!
     
  38. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Thanks, Edric.

    Now, it's all the same to me, so let's hear other opinions, please:p.
     
  39. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    Lady Bird Johnson, this is named in Dr. Brown book with the wrong picture. Page# 79. Leaves are 12 to 13 inches long 5 to 6 inches wide. The pen is for reference. As you can see it changes form as it matures, heavy veins that can color up and flush out the leaf. The large plant 12/14 years old the two smaller ones air layers in ground 2/3 years.
     

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  40. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    Butter Cup. I am sure Ray can support this I.D.
     

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