They must have a bad P.R. agent here. I never see many types of Phoenix palms planted out. When I watch "Moving" to Florida shows on hgtv,I see some killer P.loureirii palms- complete with patterned trunks and big but short canopy's of fronds. Then you have P.silvestris,P.reclinata's,etc. Since most of them take dry air and little water...We Californians never see them in yards. I've never seen P.loureirii in the bay area. Not once,anywhere. That's my beef.