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What's your air layer criteria?

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Crazy for Crotons, Apr 11, 2011.

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  1. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    What does a plant have to look like before you slap on an air layer? Of course, the 5 foot tall plant with three leaves on top is a candidate. I'm talking about the less obvious situations where the plant is leggy but maybe only 2 feet tall. Is it a good idea to air layer a plant that defoliated but is coming back with new growth only on top? Should you wait a season for the plant to regain its strength?
     
  2. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Great questions,I am pretty new to airlayering so I am putting on several each week and getting some experience.I tried the more common varieties first to get the hang of it.I had about a 80% success ratio but the time was not right (January).I have since put on a couple more on some harder to find varieties.I will attach some pics in a minute.
     
  3. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Frank Brown with 2 layers.After layering tree will be around 4 ft tall.It is currently around 6 ft tall.I took the layers from the back.
     

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  4. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Unknown tall croton,currently around 10ft tall.I am making two "standard" layers each around 5 ft tall from this one.An ID would be great if anyone can identify.The leaves are petty big (16" or so)
     

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  5. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Finally a super slow Satan.Has grown only 2ft in 5 years.I put two layers on this one.
     

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  6. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Any plant that starts to block a pathway gets cut back. Recently, I've been air-layering the larger Crotons that get in the way. Just moved a huge piece of Thomas Edison into a 3-gallon can from an airlayer. Almost 36" tall in the can.
     
  7. Melbourne Mike

    Melbourne Mike Member

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    air layer early because you are always 6 weeks late to prune for size and shape when you take them off.
     
  8. Jerry@TreeZoo

    Jerry@TreeZoo Well-Known Member

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    Bullwinkle,

    Where do you get those coot air layer cans?
     
  9. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    www.manhattanbonsai.com/ http://...or trees and 10 of the small pots (crotons) .
     
  10. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Some plants are more reluctant than others to put out new leaf heads below the air layer. Last year, I air layered a General Lawrence and below the foil was one measly head that never developed well. As a result, the original "weakened" plant did not survive the past winter. I gave Phil Stager the "new" plant but do not know if it survived. If I'd not put on an air layer, it may have had a better chance. This brings me to the question. You've got a leggy plant with one primary stem. Do you put on an air layer half way up so that when removed later, only the new growth is left on the original plant. It didn't seem risky in the past but after the "General Lawrence" incident, I'm less likely to risk the original plant until it has regained some strength.
     
  11. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    RIP for the Gen lawrence. I suspect the original would have survived or at least had a better chance. Sin gle trunk plants do not get the top air-layered unless I know it has a strong in-ground root system (but then I should not have let it get so tall and leggy - pinch, pinch, pinch..) At any rate, I've got about 30 air layers cooking - most will be in the 3 gal size container.
     
  12. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    35 air layers completed this weekend. Hopefully a few will be ready by the May meeting.
     
  13. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Nice Ray, I started this past weekend myself. I'm thinking about buying some stock in Reynolds Aluminum.:)
     
  14. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Hey Jeff, for some "hints" on what to air layer, please see my post under "Post your trades and wishlist" section. ;)
     
  15. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Depends if it is my plant or not ... :p
     

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