Unknown Palms

Anybody can help me out to identify those two palms?
 

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Very difficult to tell from these pics. And I am going to throw out two names with no degree of certainty. In fact, with very little confidence. But you can look through Palmpedia for these and see if they match up. And I am only going to guess the genus.
1) Butia
2) Coccothrinax
 
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Hi Moose and thank you very much for your reply!!! I think you have right is one of Elaeis... which one do you think?
 

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