I ordered one weeks ago..I received it bare root. Maybe 8" or so. Well,I knew it would be a waste to grow it in a pot of peaty soils and perlite for long. So into a hot spot it went in ground after a month rerooting. Its taken the heat,occasional watering. Its gotten some color back too. I've never seen a Triangle outdoors in the bay area in person,but photos show..they seem to do good. Must have taken 2007 and 2013 freezes. So,this might be a good palm to take a chance on.