Too early to air layer?

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  1. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Aside from the Glock's paradise in the Keys, is it too early to start air layering? The next two weeks look balmy which takes us into March and warmer weather. What are the risks in doing a few air layers now?

    Ray
     
  2. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    I put on a few this weekend.the next few weeks look springlike in FLL(no night temps under 60)It has been a very mild winter for us in FLL other than than december cold snap.As an experiment I tried a few layers on a stoplight and a stewartii on Christmas Day right after the cold snap just to try and see how it worked out.I took the Stewartii off this weekend it it looked fine.I will leave stoplight on for another couple weeks.No doubt the warm weather over the past 6 weeks helped.It probably would have been different if the weather had been cold.
     
  3. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Ray,

    I think Bullwinkle(first name?) made a good point about the recent warmer weather were having now down here and the expected same going into March. My only point would be, if your ready and willing to put a few on, maybe do some of the more common varieties and not something you can't afford to loose. I started all mine last year in mid April. I might bump it up a bit because of so many I plan on doing. I found earlier in the year vs. later in the summer worked better for me. But then again, it depends on which ones your doing, as some root alot faster than others.
    Jeff
     
  4. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Once the air layer is on, how long of a wait is it typically?
     
  5. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    On another note my wife gave me these rooter pots for my holiday present.
    A very thoughtful gift :) .They worked great,has anyone else tried them??
    I cannot say how durable they will be over time but there is no guesswork as far as when the layer has rooted up,you just look thru the clear plastic and see.For commercial users I doubt they would make sense but for some one who does 10-15 or so at a time they work great.
     

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  6. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    For my very,very limited experience.My Stewartii took 6 weeks to root nicely,
    Dec 25 to Feb 10,but it was winter at the time.It might be sooner in the summer,I am sure some more experienced gardeners can assist you with better info.
     
  7. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Bull, those little rooting pots are great! Do you know where she got them from?
     
  8. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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  9. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    I've got 10-15 air layers that rooted, albeit slowly, over the winter months. I started them in mid September and are now finally well rooted. I'd like to think air layers started now will root much more quickly.
     
  10. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    In the warmer months, you should get roots in 30 to 40 days. This time of the year? Double that and hope for the best. I would say that even here in zone 10 we're at least 3 or 4 weeks away from it being warm enough at night to get roots. I plan on starting the mistbed the second weekend in March.
     
  11. Bullwinkle

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    Has anyone else tried the rooterpots??I might try a comparison betwen a regular layer and the rooterpots this weekend.I will put both on the same plant and see what comes out looking better after a couple months.
     
  12. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Michael (Bullwinkle) - they seem a bit pricey compared to the cost of heavy duty aluminum foil. The aluminium foil technique also allows an air layer in a tighter area that would be prohibitive with the air layering pot. Just my opinion. :rolleyes:

    Rickey (fawnridge) is right in my opinion, air layers starting on March 15th! :cool:
     
  13. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Finally took of the airlayers that I put on Dec 24,mixed results,the Stoplight did great
    along with the Dr Frank Brown and Rudy Bachmann.The Queen of Siam not so good.Overrall tried about 10 ,with 6 good results,2 okay results and 2 faliures.One of my faliures was with a Guava tree, dont know how hard those are to layer??Also did a Brownea with fantastic results.The rooter pots worked just fine maybe a little slower than aluminum but
    it is cool to watch the roots progress thru the plastic :)
     
  14. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    About 30 air layers over the past two weeks. Some are already rooting nicely. Broken branches from winter rooted nicely although slowlys using bag method.
     
  15. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    I put on around 10 this morning.very hot out there,could use some rain,things starting to look a little crispy.
     
  16. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    I just went through 10 lbs. of 20-20-20 water soluble fertilizer on all my croton children. Next weekend, the air layering shall begin. ;)
     

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