The very elusive Lemon Top

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Crazy for Crotons, Sep 24, 2011.

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  1. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    I've not seen this one in Florida.

    Here's a specimen Judy Glock and I thought might be Lemon Top. This was at Heminho's Farm during the 2010 IPS Biennial in Rio de Janeiro.
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  2. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Ray,

    IMO,the picture above really dosen't come close to matching up with picture in the book on page 115. In the book, Lemon Top shows really no shoulders at all, and the new flush is all yellow. Not mixed with greens. Any other opinions out there? But I agree, it's a rare plant.
     
  3. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Jeff, the other plant I saw in Hawaii was not Lemon Top but another equally elusive plant, Imelda Marcos.
     
  4. waykoolplantz

    waykoolplantz Active Member

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    Easily identified by it's shoe shape
     
  5. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    I thought Lemon Top was a synonym for Imelda Marcos...
     
  6. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Peyton - that was understanding as well. Reportedly when Dr. Frank Brown was in the Philippines, the local croton aficionados wanted nothing to do with the cultivar that had been named after their former first lady. It was then "officially" renamed Lemon Top since the Imelda Marcos name was so offensive to the Philippino people.

    All members of the Beatles have never set foot on Philippino land to this day after the "reception" they encountered with Mrs. Marcos. :mad:

     
  7. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    You're right Peyton, they are the same. I'm not going crazy after all. I knew I wanted to post an Imelda photo for a reason. I'll post a photo later of Imelda Marcos at Waimea Falls Park (north shore of Oahu). This one is the labeled as such from Dr. Brown's identification in the 1980's.
     
  8. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Imelda Marcos as identified by Dr. Brown at Waimea Falls Park along Oahu's north shore.

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  9. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Very Cool Ray. :cool: Thanks for searching your archieves of photos and posting this photo ! :)
     
  10. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Jeff, does the book picture look more like the last photo I posted?
     
  11. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it does. I would then wonder what the new growth looks like as it comes out. Classic solid yellow or not. Even the leaves look more like LT. The above plant is certainly different from the first, we can agree on?
     
  12. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    They may be differerent but the last one is buried in shade. The first one is in wide open Rio sun. You know how that can affect the appearance.
     
  13. Moose

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    It was my understanding that Lemon Top was a very popular croton in the Phillipines. I could be mistaken however, if this be true, why has this cultivar remained so elusive in the States ? :confused:
     
  14. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Ron,
    I recently received some cuttings of Lemon Top (Imelda Marcos) from Waimea Falls and they're rooting in the mist house. I also got Davis #17 from them. Anyone have it or heard of it?
     
  15. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Marie you never heard this from me, Jeff Searle may be very interested in acquiring a Lemon Top.

    Hmmm, do I smell a trade for Jack Pot in the making ??? :rolleyes:
     
  16. andy

    andy Active Member

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    I was told this was lemon top ? I have never quite believed it.
    I really stink at names and ids anyways.
     

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    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Andy - That appears to be a Yellow Petra.
     

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