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The Great Croton Expidition

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Borgy230, Jun 13, 2010.

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  1. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    So today Jeff Searle and I drove around almost all of South Florida, stopping at 3 main secret locations. We saw numerous varieties of crotons, few rare, some common, and some that we had no idea what they were!! All in all it was a great day, we went home with some new varieties to us, and some well sought after varieties. Monday we are also going to a Top Secret location to meet someone new that had an amazing collection!

    Attached are some photos of what we came home with, if you can identify any, please do!

    Rob
     

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  2. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    Here are some more
     

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    Borgy230 Active Member

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    and one more!
     

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  4. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Rob,

    Thanks for putting some pictures. I'm really interested in knowing a name on the third one in group #2. It's the creamy yellow and green. The length is only about 6" long with wide shoulders. The closest thing I can think of is the yellow form of Sybil Griffen. But it's not, I don't think. Any sugestions?


    We did go over to another hose on monday afternoon. The gentleman had an awesome collection, including Madame Fernand Kohl, Stoplight, Johanna Coppinger and many more I couldn't put a name on. I'll try to get some pictures up soon.


    Jeff
     
  5. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Hi Jeff,
    Re: the 3rd one in group 2-- I have a couple that look similar. One is Yellow Sybil Griffin; the other is a Coppinger Hyb. You may want Chris M. to take a look.
    Marie
     
  6. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    I got a yellow Sybil Griffin last year and although the leaf shape is about the same, the color and leaf texture look different. It defoliated during the winter but is coming back slowly.
     
  7. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    No wonder it was a secret! What were you guys doing in my yard???


    LOL!
     

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  8. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    here are more!
     

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  9. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    Another great expidition is on the horizon, and I think you all are in for some great suprises! so far this year we have found Baron Le Compte, Madame Fernand Kohl, Vietchii, William Craig, Compte de Germini, and probably 2 dozen that we cant figure out what the heck they are!!!
    Today, I believe I stumbled upon an 8ft Louis Doupey and some other mind blowing pastels!!!

    Pictures will be here by weeks end! be ready!
     
  10. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Rob, Thanks for posting these pictures. Can't wait for the new pictures. So is Baron Le Compte rare?
     
  11. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    How about a meeting next spring at the house in the last photo? Looks very historic hmmm........could be Davis, Coppinger, Rutherford, Christian, Krukonis, Cutler
     
  12. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    ok, so what are these guys!???
    first two pics are same variety
     

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  13. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Last two look like Chief; no idea on first two
     
  14. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    first two pics are same plant, 3rd plant is a seperate one at same location as first two.

    Last plant is an entirely different plant at an entirely different location
     
  15. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    First, to me the third pic. looks close to Chief and could be, it just looks like it has a little too much pink. The last pic. is certainly different, and looks close to a Queen Victoria, but much better, so who knows. The first two are nice, and I just can't wait to see them in person on thusday afternoon.:) The first one could be a Louis Dupuy, but I just can't say for sure from a pic.

    Good find....
     
  16. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    The first one looks like Exotica or a variety known as Exiter (check last year's calendar). The last one has a Regina appearance. I have no idea on the third photo.
     
  17. Borgy230

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    first deffinitly isnt exotica. no red or black on it
     
  18. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Rob, you've seen the plant in person but from the photo, it resembles Exotica big time.
     
  19. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    I believe this is Exotica, correct??
     

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  20. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Yes that's Exotica. If Exotica ended up with an orange ribbon #2, what plant won that contest??

    The photo of the mystery plant is partially obstructed by a palm frond. Couldn't Jeff have jumped the fence and gotten a better photo?
     
  21. Borgy230

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    Jeff hasnt even seen the plant in person yet. I might take him with me tomorrow to go get some cuttings.
     
  22. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    The third pic reminds me of the auction plant I bought of 'the stick' Lee had for everyone at last months meeting.
     
  23. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    M I G H T ???
     
  24. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    Come one Searle, you cant always be the one going on these croton expeditions, otherwise people might start complaining its unfair I always take you.

    Seems I have a talent for finding these things ;)
     
  25. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Rob, please make sure you get a photo of Jeff climbing the fence. You'll be filling Ryan's role here.

    Bren, the plant Lee brought to Phil's as a distribution plant was a Bender plant called Dr. Alexander (not the oakleaf Dr. Alix). If Toby sees this, maybe he can post some photos of his plant on Pine Island.
     
  26. Jeff Searle

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    So as to understand you Ray, the plant we got up at Phil's house, is called Dr. Alexander? If so, I want to attach the name with the plant. Thanks.....
     
  27. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Yes Jeff. Phil Stager has a nice sized specimen in his garden also.
     
  28. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    I do? Where?
     
  29. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Phil,

    It's the Dr. Alexander plant that you and Toby have. I've seen it at your place a dozen times (in front of the Beccariophoenix?). At the meeting, I had no idea that's what it was but Lee mentioned that it was a plant Toby had on Pine Island.

    Check this link from a thread last year
    http://www.palmpedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=966&highlight=Dr.+Alix

    The plant is Dr. Alexander not Dr. Alix which is an entirely different plant. As you put it Phil, onward through the fog.

    Ray
     
  30. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Rob photo 2 and 3 of your first post looks like Fred Sanders and W.C. Wallace.
     
  31. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Really Ray? Lee told me he did not have an ID for that one.
     
  32. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Lee didn't know the name but mentioned that Toby was also growing it on PI. Look at the thread I attached above from last year. Phil's plant is a bit bleached out in the photo.
     
  33. Moose

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    "Onward through the fog"? LOL :p
     

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