The Colors of Cordylines (The Ti Plant)

Discussion in 'CORDYLINE CORNER - THE TI PLANT' started by Dypsisdean, Mar 22, 2008.

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  1. keith

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    First time I have been on this page looking at Ti plants-- I should have stayed off this site, now I may have to
    start collecting Cordylines. I have always been into crotons, how well do Cordylines take the cold compared to
    crotons?
     
  2. Dypsisdean

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    I'll let Scott answer that, as he probably has more experience in that area - and it would probably be more accurate.

    If I had to offer advice, I would say they are similar. And like any family of plants, some do better than others. as a rule they would rather have it tropical year round. But it is hard to kill them outright and they come back quickly enough that in a warm summer climate like you have, they would be looking good up until it got cold. The big difference is that the cane could be cut and stored through the winter for propagation in early spring - easily.
     
  3. ScotTi

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    Keith, I have never lost a Cordyline to the cold here, can not say that about the Crotons. I have Cordyline that are 8'+ tall, will not see that here with a Croton. No leaf drop on the Cordylines due to cold winds/temps. Planting Cordyline under canopy of palms/trees, have not been damaged by any winter temps here so far in 15yrs.
     
  4. tropicalken

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    Ti plants are far more hardy than crotons where I live in California. I have friends who live in areas that experience winter frost every few years and they usually lose all their crotons that are exposed to it. Ti plants, on the other hand, will have their tops killed, but then send out numerous branches farther down the cane when the weather warms up in the spring. Ti plants are supposedly hardy down to zone 8 according to the literature, although I might question that.
     
  5. tropicalken

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    Here is a picture of HY 1. It is a creation of Howard Yakamoto. He raised many new seedlings in Hawaii, but didn't name them. They would go by HY and then the number.
     
  6. ScotTi

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    Very very nice! Thanks for posting the picture.
     
  7. ScotTi

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    :cool: A Earthquake for Scottland. :cool:
     

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    :)
     

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  9. tropicalken

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    1) Emerald - This is darker green than the common greens and the leaves are held in a more upright position.

    2) Monte Cristo - This one was grown in too much sun, so is bleached out. In the shade the color of the white you see is a soft flamingo pink.
     
  10. ScotTi

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    Thanks Ken! Monte Cristo will be growing in my garden this summer.
     
  11. ScotTi

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    Nice winter color ...
     

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  12. ScotTi

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    Here is my Black Magic, that puts out new growth at ground. ( continue to next post)
     

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  13. ScotTi

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    Here is Pink Majic that I purchased last fall. (continue to next post)
     

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  14. ScotTi

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    Here we have a ground shoot that was removed from the Black Magic last summer and looks alot like Pink Majic. Anyone know if Black Magic sports Pink Majic? (continue to next post)
     

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  15. ScotTi

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    Here the two are side by side with sport on the left and Pink Majic on the right.
     

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    Big Red (top pic) vs Dr Brown (bottom pic) ...
     

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  17. ScotTi

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    A new Jackie (top) to replace the Jackie (bottom) that morphed.
     

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  18. Dypsisdean

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    How 'bout an overall pic sometime of how all these beauties enhance the garden. :)
     
  19. tropicalken

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    Thanks for all the great pictures Scott. I also think that Pink Majic is a sport of Black Majic, but no one has confirmed this.
     
  20. ScotTi

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    Took these pictures today...
     

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  21. ScotTi

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    such a nice day, today...
     

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  22. ScotTi

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    ok...
     

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  23. ScotTi

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    more...
     

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  24. tropicalken

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    Your yard pictures look great! I like the way you have clumped the same cultivar together to get a dramatic display. I wish mine looked as good. Here in California, many types have brown spotting on the leaves and lose a lot of older leaves at this time of year. It's because they do not like our extended cool weather season. No frost, but days in the 60s and nights in the 40s or 50s for quite a few months.

    I'm flying into Ft. Lauderdale this Friday and am going to loop around the state visiting relatives and friends. Tentatively I will be in the Tampa area Tues. afternoon, leaving Wed. to go back across to the East coast. Any chance of meeting you and seeing your yard? That might not be possible if you work during the day. Also, are there any nurseries in your area that have a good selection of ti and crotons that would be worth stopping at?

    Thanks,

    Ken
     
  25. ScotTi

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    Ken, You are in luck! If you are going to be in Ft Lauderdale Sat Feb25, Croton tour and party at TikiRicks (info in Croton Forum). I may can swing Tue afternoon on your Tampa visit.
     
  26. tropicalken

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    How great! Thanks. I saw the Croton tour posted after I left this thread and told them I would like to come. I like crotons as well as ti plants, but ti plants do much better in my climate. Croton hardiness and root rot susceptibility vary a lot and I have often lost some of the nicer varieties to root rot in the winter. The ti plants may get a little grungy, but they snap back right away with warmer weather.

    How shall I contact you for a meeting? Probably neither one of us is wild about posting personal information on a forum.

    Ken
     
  27. tropicalken

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    1) Flicker

    2) Maui Beauty
     
  28. Dypsisdean

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    Thanks Scott,

    It's nice to see how everything fits into the big picture. Things are looking great. Most February gardens don't look near as good.
     
  29. putu enjula

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    Scott nice to see your tis in habitat!!!
     
  30. ScotTi

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    Here are a few more...
     

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    Dean, I know you like before and after pictures, so here are photos of my compost area now. This area is a current project to transform. Stay tuned!
     

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  32. putu enjula

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    Wow, either you are using something on your plants or you don't have the pests we have over here. They look so perfect.
     
  33. Dypsisdean

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    I'm with Putu. Do you spray or use a systemic on your Ti Plants?

    Looking forward to the before and after. I should do more of those myself.
     
  34. ScotTi

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    I do not spray or use systemic, as I have had no problems with pests.
     
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    Have no name for this one, but its a nice pink one.
     

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  36. tropicalken

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    This one is very nice.
     
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    1. Chong's Giant

    2. Pahoa
     
  38. ScotTi

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    New Ti plantings. This extends the Ti border plantings another 30' on the east side of the garden.
     

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    The path (center of pic) thru the soon to be jungle walk has now been opened...
     

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  40. tropicalken

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    The garden looks great! A lot of time and energy have gone into it.
     

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