Where will it be in 2011? Naples Botanical Garden? Thomas Edison Winter Estate? I'm just throwing out some ideas. Like last year at the Glock Botanical Garden, it would be nice to pick an area between the croton hotbed areas of Tampa/St. Pete/Bradenton and Miami/Ft. Lauderdale/West Palm Beach. A December date may be too close to Jeff's November meeting but perhaps something for after new year.