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Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Moose, Nov 22, 2012.

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  1. Moose

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    Post #2 Photo #5 is The Moth. Reportedly a sport from Madam Butterfly.

    Here is an updated photo from this morning. Not a good picture, but she has grown considerably. Especiall since two air layers were harvested from her recently.
     

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  2. Moose

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    Post #2 Photo #6 is Angel Wing.

    Here is an updated photo of the same Angel Wing this morning. She also has had an air layer taken recently.
     

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  3. Moose

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    Post #3 Photo #1 is John Bender. Planted beneath a Mango tree - this croton got the crap beaten out of it from falling fruit.

    Here is an updated photo of the same John Bender from this morning. Looking better but will get hit by the Mango "bombs" again. :(
     

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  4. Moose

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    Post #3 Photo #2 is Magnificient. Here is an updated photo of the same plant taken yesterday morning.
     

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  5. Moose

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    Post #3 Photo #3 is Clipper. Here are some updated photos of the same Clipper taken yesterday morning.
     

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  6. Moose

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    Post #3 Photos #4 & 5 are Jungle Queen. This is the same Jungle Queen, photos taken yesterday morning.
     

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  7. Moose

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    Post #3 Photo #6 is Commotion. This Commotion has really picked up its growth rate in the last year. Been in the ground a little over three years. According to Dr. Frank B. Brown, most crotons need three years in the ground to get really established. My experience is that Dr. Brown's rule holds pretty true. Here are a couple shots of the same Commotion, photos taken yesterday morning.
     

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  8. Moose

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    Post #3 Photo #7 is Red Foot. This croton has been in Moose Land for 4 years. It originally was planted in too much sun (afternoon sun) which kept BBQing the leaves. Its been located here for three years now (remember the Dr. Brown 3 year rule) and its starting to get its mojo going. It often has to compete with a Pritchardia thurstonia palm for light. The palm is starting to gain some height so I expect Red Foot will increase its growth rate. Here are a couple of updated photos of the same plant taken yesterday morning.
     

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  9. Moose

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    Post #4 Photo #1 is Claude Lorraine. Updated photo of the same Claude Lorraine taken yesterday morning. Its in alot of shade, very slow going.
     

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  10. Moose

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    Post #4 Photo #2 is a very shaded Caribbean Star. Here is an updated photo of the same plant from yesterday morning.
     

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  11. Crazy for Crotons

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    Great nighttime shots Ron.
     
  12. Moose

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    Post #4 Photo #3 is Stewaartii. This is not a typical Stewartii, its either a very "blotched" form or could potentially be the elusive Pink Stewartii. It looks better in person. Recently had to remove two branches that had gone "albino". Updated photo was taken 11/30/2013 am. Its also finally planted in the ground.
     

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  13. Moose

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    Post #4 Photo #4 - Got this from Mike Woolery as Maryland. Some have stated that they think it may be B. Comte. B. Comte sometimes is finicky to hold color. This croton holds color all the time. It also appears that it may be heavier blotching of red than is typical of B. Comte. Another mystery? Updated photo 11/30/2013 early am.
     

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  14. Moose

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    Post #4 Photo #5 is Mike Fascell. This croton is positioned in too much shade and flowers constantly. Unfortunately for this croton, its still in the container, still in the too shady area and still continues to flower profusely. Thus, it really has not grown much in a year. :( Here is the same Mike Fascell on 11/30/2013 before sunrise.
     

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  15. Moose

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    Post #4 Photo #6 is Eleanor Fischler. It was stepped up into a 7 gallon container, but did little growing. Finally got it into the ground and she is just starting to get going again. Updated photos of the same Eleanor Fischler 11/30/2013 early. Note: Richard Buttons refers to this cultivar as "John Bender's Wife".
     

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    Post #4 Photo #7 is Mosaic. Since this original photo was taken, it has finally gotten into the ground. It looks happy to be in the ground. Here are a couple of more shots of the same Mosaic taken 11/30/2013 early am.
     

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    Post #5 Photo #1 is Playboy in a 7 gallon container. It was responding so well that it got stepped up into a 10 gallon container to maintain its rapid growth rate. Since then it has been planted. A large very deep hole was made so it would keep cranking. It did not work. Its been sitting and has not flushed a single leaf since then. Perhaps its expending all its energy developing its roots for now. Hopefully it will explode during the next growing season. Here is an updated photo of the same Playboy on 11/30/2013 before the sun rises.
     

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    Post #5 Photo #2 is Blotched William Jennings Bryan. This croton got an air layer and was sold at the Ramble. Here is an updated photo of the same plant taken 11/30/2013. Its still in it's container, have not figured out where to plant it yet to achieve the proper lighting so it will look its best.
     

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  19. Moose

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    Post #5 Photo #3 is Dreer #7 in a 7 gallon container. It got planted this fall. Here is an updated photo of the same croton 11/30/2013.
     

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  20. Moose

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    Post #5 Photo #4 is an Unknown from the Ralph Davis Garden. This croton is very slow. It only branched once. An air layer was made to attempt to induce more branching. Here are updated photos of the Unknown from the Ralph Davis Garden taken 11/30/2013. The second photo is the newly air layered plant.
     

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  21. Moose

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    Post#5 Photo #5 is Earlscourt. This has proved to be a difficult cultivar for me. Not very fast and I have had problems with spider mites multiple times. The leaf shape allows areas for this irritating critters to hide. Updated photo of Earlscourt from early am 11/30/2013.
     

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  22. Moose

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    Post #5 Photo #6 is Chief from Mike Woolery. It was planted about a month after this photo was taken. Its not a very fast cultivar but it is growing. Everything else planted around it is growing much quicker. Here is an updated photo of the same plant on 11/30/2013.
     

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    Post #5 Photo #7 is Plaid Oak. It also was planted a month after the original photo was made. Here are some updated photos of the same Plaid Oak taken 11/30/2013.
     

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    Post #6 Photos #1 & 3 is Bermuda Red. Here are updated photos of Bermuda Red taken yesterday. Getting leggy and wanting to induce branching - three air layers removed recently.
     

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  25. Moose

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    Post #6 Photo #2 is Doris. Here is an updated photo of Doris taken yesterday. Saw one at Ree Gardens yesterday for sale. If you don't have one, I suggest you PM Marie - if its still there. ;)
     

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    Post #6 Photo #4 is Glen Roof. A large air layer was removed since the original photo was taken. Here is an updated photo of the same Glen Roof
    taken yesterday.
     

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    Post #6 Photo #5 is Rheedii #3. She has been producing some very large leaves as she matures. Updated photo of Rheedii #3 taken yesterday.
     

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    Post #6 Photo #6 is William Jennings Bryan. Updated photo of William Jennings Bryan taken yesterday.
     

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    Post #6 Photo #7 is Rudy Bachman. Here is an updated photo of the same Rudy Bachman taken yesterday. Rudy is tucked away in heavy shade and hardly growing.
     

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    Post #7 Photo #1 is Wooten's Beauty. Here is an updated photo taken 12/07/2013. Everything is getting bigger in the area and now it appears the shading is too much. When I first planted this area, it was too much sun.
     

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    Post #7 Photo #2 is Sweet Marie. This cultivar was acquired at my first Extravaganza that I purchased crotons. Was told "that one loves shade". So it was tucked in a corner that was shaded. Everything else got bigger, so it got even more shade. It kept stretching for sun and never branched. In the original photo it has about 36" of stem.

    Here are updated photos of the same Sweet Marie on 12/07/2013. 1st is the mother plant. 2nd is the air layered plant. The air layered plant looks happier with more light ray exposure.
     

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    Post #7 Photo #3 is General Marshall. This cultivar has not been a particularly quick grower here. A more "recent" acquisition, it has not reached the "three year" benchmark in the ground. It does look good year round, not a seasonal coloring type.

    Here is an updated photo of the same General Marshall from 12/07/2013.
     

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    Post #7 Photo #4 is Christmas in the foreground and Maximum in the background. Here is an updated photo of the same plants, Christmas (left) and Maximum (right) from 12/07/2013.
     

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    Post #7 Photo #5 is Pink Flush. My experience is that this croton appreciates full sun. It may even give Purity competition as the quickest cultivar. Trimming is needed to branch. Without full sun, the undersides of the leaves have much less of the "pink flush". The pink flushing also occurs on leaves usually older than a year. At least these are observations for this plant.

    Updated photo of the same Pink Flush taken 12/07/2013.
     

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  35. Moose

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    Post #7 Photo #6 is Piecrust. In Frank Brown's first book (pg 125) under Mortimer, he refers to this cultivar as "sold by the Royal Palm Nursery (Oneco, FL)". Not referred to as one of "their cultivars" - the croton had to of come from one of the old greenhouse growers up north. My plant has exploded after the last couple of years. The wonderful pinks and unique wavy leaf margins (hence the piecrust moniker) make this an old standard.

    Here is an updated photo of Piecrust from 12/07/2013, after 4 air layers were removed since the original photo in this thread.
     

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    Post #7 Photo #7 is Freckles. This was one of the unknowns from the Frank Brown Garden that was easiest to identify. Updated photo of the same Freckles 12/07/2013.
     

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  37. Moose

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    Post #8 Photos #1 & 2 are (as per Bob Alonso) Potter's Pink Veitchii. This was another Unknown from the Frank Brown Garden. An air layer from this plant was auctioned at the Glock Garden Tour event. Three air layers were made since the original photos in this thread. The growth rate had really accelerated and was shading the Freckles too much.

    Here are some photos updated photos from 12/07/2013. Photos #1 & 2 are of the mother plant. Photos #3 & 4 are of one of the air layers. Photo #5 is another air layered plant. This "branch" kept growing so fast disregarding it was being air layered. When the air layer was removed, I was very nervous that the ball of roots was too small to maintain all those leaves. A severe leaf drop was anticipated. It never happened - and a visitor seeing this plant wanted it real bad. I did not want to sell it but an "offer I could not refuse" was made.
     

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    Post #8 Photo #3 is Unknown FB #5. I wanted to get an ID on this plant at the Glock Garden Tour from Bob Alonzo. When the 10 plant limit for the auction was announced - I brought my only potted up air layer to the Ramble for sale. A "hefty" price was put on it hoping it would not sell. Well it caught someone's eye and poof - it never made it to Ft. Myers.

    Here are some updated photos of Unknown Frank Brown's Garden #5. Photos #1 & 2 are of the mother plant after three air layers were removed. Photo #3 is one of the air layers. Photos 4 & 5 is another.
     

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    Post #8 Photo #4 is Unknown Frank Brown's Garden #19. Jose Lopez is pretty certain that this is Czar Alexander. I'm waiting to see if this ID can be confirmed. I've taken two small air layers from this plant since the original post. Mike Woolery got the first one off the momma.

    Here are updated photos from 12/07/2013. Photo #1 is the mother plant. Photo #2 is the other small air layer.
     

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  40. palmisland

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    Thanks for the updates Ron. That Frank Brown #5 is magnificent as well as the Potter's Pink.:rolleyes:
     

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