Synonyms for the Wiki

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Crazy for Crotons, Jul 23, 2013.

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  1. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Hi Ana,

    it's time for a synonym chart so we can avoid duplicate Wiki entries for the same plant. These were all confirmed by Bob Alonzo.

    Albicans = White Veitchii
    Anietumense = Sunray
    AFD #9 = Nervia
    Angustissimum = Johannis
    Appleaf = Mrs. Iceton = Imperialis
    Aureo maculatum = Goldust
    Batik = Bush on Fire
    Chrysophyllum = Hookerianum
    C.I. Craigin = Madam Blanche
    Cornutum = Banana
    Earl of Derby = Mrs. Fred Sanders (it's not just Fred Sanders)
    Edwin Lonsdale = Buddy
    Goldfinger = Goldstar Selecta
    Goldfinger sport = Stripes and Dots
    Helen Edge = Beyond Petra
    Illustris = Fiesta
    Ken Bullard = White Crocodile
    Marie Dressler = Tugboat Annie
    Marigold = Yellow Duke of Windsor
    Noblissima = Zulu
    Rainbow Starlite = Mrs. C.O. Liller
    Reasoner's #2 = Victoria Gold Bell
    Reliance = Johanna Coppinger Sport = Willie
    Roseo Pictus = Gonzales
    Stained Glass = John Barnett
    Superba = Picasso's paintbrush = Madam Pele
    Tortilis = Red Corkscrew
    Tortoise Shell = Turtle Back
    Undulatum = Piecrust = Mortimer
    Virginia = Colonel Lindbergh (Bob isn't 100% certain)
    Volutum = Ram's Horn
    Warrenii = Jenseni
    White Ann Rutherford = Island Breeze
    White Eburneum = Andrew
     
  2. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Great info, Ray.

    I've also seen/heard the White Eburneum = Andrew called Madagascar - and then some odd sports with other names...
     
  3. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Great info Ray! :cool: Thanks!
     
  4. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    Scott, I think your pic. of Eburneum is like one of mine (Eburneum Narrow Leaf Form) I think it came from Australia but I have no idea when. Three new pics. I am very ifffffy on this name game I mean no offense.
     

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  5. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Tamara (left) and White Eburneun / Andrew (right) growing side by side.
    IMG_2407.jpg
     
  6. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Ray - any thoughts on Major Dade and Lord Belhaven ? :confused:
     
  7. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ron, I thought they were the same but Keith has both plants. Bob also talked about the distinction at the 2010 Glock Christmas Croton Fiesta. Most of what's around is Major Dade. LB appears to be the more rare of the two. Both grow at a good clip.
     
  8. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    They are supposely different but I still have a hard time telling them apart.
     
  9. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    You, me, and just about everyone else. Anyone have some good pics of each for comparison???
     
  10. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    I did that somewhere on here eons ago.
     
  11. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Well, we have none other than the Mooster here in the group. He's the pro on reliving old topics. I think he's got some hound in him.Lol
     
  12. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Jeff,

    What about Major Stewart and Stewartii? I think we both agreed it was the same plant?
     
  13. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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  14. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ana,

    Here's another synonym:

    Julia Reasoner = General Paget sport
     
  15. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Canned Sunshine = Andreanum

    Ana - you could post a photo of Andreanum there and put a * denoting Andreanum has the more accepted name
    :)
     
  16. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    The Wiki (Ana) needs a photo of Barbara Bush. I may recall that Barabara Bush is a synonym for another cultivar with a more widely accepted name. Can't remember - please some help here ? Ray ? Phil ? Randy ? Was it Evening Embers ? :confused:
     
  17. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    Wilma was misidentified as BBush.:rolleyes:
     
  18. Native son

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    Good morning CROTONHEADS, on the mini-tour we mounted up several name tags. That is a good thing but today I found new tag Davis#3 on a plant tagged Helene Chait. Does anyone have any info on H.C.?tags for size reference 3.5X1 inch.
     

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  19. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    I'm not familiar with croton Helen Chait, but there is a Jeff Chait, a plant collector & Palm Society member in Miami. Maybe he named? :confused: Just a thought.
     
  20. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    You could be very well right, Randy. Jeff C. has produced a few seedlings over the years and named a few. Unfortunately, like so many times, a new seedling that somebody names, this new plant looks so much like an old name variety, it confuses everybody.
     
  21. Marie Nock

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    Helene Chait is one of Jeff Chait's seedlings. He has had a number of good seedlings over the years and I have encouraged him to name some of them. I have named some of his others. Lamar, your plant is too small to show mature leaves so I guess that's why someone put the Davis label on it. When mature, it is quite unique. I would stick with the Helene Chait name (Helene is his wife). I'll try to remember to post a photo. Some of you have gotten Sailor's Delight from me and that's another of Jeff's seedlings. And I think Mike is the only one who has Jeff Chait from me ( I named this one after him) but many of you have seen it in past TFEPS Shows.
     
  22. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    I have all three that Marie mentioned and they are all great plants!! Lamar your plant will get a little more distinctive with time :)


     

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