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some new crotons

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by sick1166, Jan 12, 2011.

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  1. sick1166

    sick1166 Banned

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    who buys crotons with the cold coming? I am an addict
    1 lucha
    2 pappey
    3 faye miller
    4 mini cascade
     

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  2. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Andy - what a sick puppy you have evolved into! :rolleyes:

    LOL Moose :p
     
  3. Bills

    Bills Banned

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    anyone can take pics and add them
     
  4. Croton Guru

    Croton Guru Banned

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    Good for you, Hope they do well. Funny thing is I use to do most of my Cuttings in the winter, They all did very well
     
  5. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    The first one is called "Andrew" by the Angel Plants folks. I think it's a sport from Eburneum. The last one is probably "Batik".
     
  6. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    First one is Lucha, last one is most deffinitly not Batik
     
  7. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Kind of surprise to see the Faye Miller. This isn't that common of a croton it seems anymore.

    I never heard of the croton "Andrew", and because it's being grown by a very large foliage nursery, it would not surprise me in the least that they would add their own fancy name to an already existing named croton. It will be interesting next week when the TPIE Show will be in Ft Lauderdale. I know for sure I will see some misnamed crotons in vendor booths.

    I would agree, the last one is not Batik.
     
  8. Bills

    Bills Banned

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    #4 was grown from a respected grower who takes the years to get patents to name new hybrids, i was there when purchased it is a mini cascade
     
  9. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Andrew from Angel Plants has been sold through the big box stores for well over a decade. Mine has been in the ground for 8 or 9 years isn't much bigger than the one in the photo, but the black spots and the ruffled edges are identical. If "Andrew" is not the correct name can you tell me who named it "Lucha" and if that is a valid name for all involved?
     
  10. Central Floridave

    Central Floridave Active Member

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    those are cool looking. I just picked up #1 lucha in the fall.
     
  11. Borgy230

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    Ricky, looking on the website for the Exotic Angel Plants, their "Andrew" doesnt even look close to the Lucha. Its entirely different patterns. Their "andrew" looks like our Eburnum

    See photo of "Andrew" from the Exotic Angel Plants website.
     

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  12. Bills

    Bills Banned

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    lucha leaves go to a point where eburnum are rounded
    according to ics its a newer introduction also known as ben vagara
     
  13. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    I'll shoot a picture of mine when we get home from the hospital today. But it's three plants, planted together, all three of them said "Andrew" when I bought them at HD many years ago. Mine looks more like the original photo at the top of the thread than the plant in the picture above.
     
  14. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Here is a Batik...
     

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  15. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Here's what was marked "Andrew" by Angel Plants, 5 years ago, maybe 6.
     

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  16. Plant Nut

    Plant Nut Active Member

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    Ricky:
    I'm almost afraid to ask but, is that a recent picture? If so, is it of the very same plant you bought 5 or 6 yrs. ago? i.e. not a cutting or an airlayer from it?
     
  17. fawnridge

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    That photo was taken today. Yeah, a very slow growing variety. I think it should be in the sun, but instead, it's in the understory. Of course, it was in the sun 5 or 6 years ago.
     
  18. ScotTi

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    Lucha- white,piecrust edge,green vein lines and spots.
     

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  19. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Scott - Where does the name come from? Who named it - Angel Plants?
     
  20. ScotTi

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    I have these plants growing The first Angel Plant purchase had Andrew as the name. The second Angel was purchased as Lucha. They look the same to me. The pic above I posted was from the Croton Connection. I checked out the Angel Plant website just now and they only list Andrew, last time I looked they had both plants listed. :confused: Let me add that I have seen Angel Plants sold with wrong name tags stuck in the pots. This past fall I saw Petras with Luna name tags.
     

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