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Richard Krukonis

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Borgy230, Sep 23, 2009.

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  1. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    With all this talk lately about this very important "Richard Krukonis" croton. what does it look like? Is it the one labeled as such in the book on pages 11 and 15?

    Anyone have one and have a photo of theirs?

    Rob
     
  2. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Rob - I posted one in the online encyclopedia. Am I positive that it's correct? Not anymore.
     
  3. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    Ricky,

    yah I saw that, and I was looking through the book last night and the R.K. caught my eye, it looks completely different than what we have here in the encyclopedia. Its so hard figuring these things out!
    I think I spent a good 30 minutes yesterday with Jeff trying to differentiate two crotons haah.

    Rob
     
  4. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Rob - In looking at the photos in the book and then at mine, I doubt mine is the same. Which then begs the question, "What do I have then?"

    (Added as I'm looking at the book right now) Take a gander at President Reagan on page 23 and then at the photo I posted as RK.
     
  5. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    Ricky,
    I was just looking in the book and was actually going to suggest the same thing!
    I think thats a President R. that you have!

    Rob
     
  6. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Well, I've got quite a few of them, including the big one for the auction:

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    well, whatever the name is or how rare, its beautiful!
    I can't wait to see your collection!
     
  8. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    I've never heard anyone ever criticize the picture on p11 and p15 in Crotons of the World. Some distinguising characteristics include: size of leaf- compare it to Dr. Brown's hand; that's a big leaf. Shape of leave; note how large the side lobes of the leaves are. One may see an occasional leaf like that on another cultivar but not a whole bush full.

    So after staring at your photo, Ricky, it looks like a Pres. Reagan - with fone Krukonis type leaf in LR.
    Which then raises the question for me at least, how does Pres. Reagan differ significantly from Corot (Not Carrot or Carot) ? Darker color is perhaps the best distinguishing feature for me. I've got two Corots and one very slow growing Pres. Reagan, and again, the only difference I can see is that Pres Reagan has more red in the mature leaves.
    Anyone have any idea where Corot and Pres. Reagan came from?

    Phil
     
  9. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Ricky / Rob,

    I'm definitely looking forward to the croton tour and seeing everyone. Also, we'll take a look at this plant in question and see if we can all determine what it might be.

    Two years ago, I was extreamly lucky to get a small RK plant from Frank Brown. I grew it up and finally took some cuttings off of it earlier this summer with great success. But, because it was small and still is, it wouldn't be worth taking a picture of it now. Before I took the cuttings, it was starting to get some nice, typical leaves that this variety is known for.

    But I think when we all take a look, we can get a good idea on what it is.



    Jeff
     
  10. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Phil,

    I have both plants growing, and I will agree that President Reagan has more red and brighter reds throughout the leaf. I also would say that Corot is a much smaller leaf when compared as long as both plants are in healthy conditions. Also, the three tips of the leaf seem to come to a more defined point than President Reagan. To me, their pretty easy to tell apart, maybe because I've had them growing for a few years now.
     
  11. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Gents, I posted photos of R. Reagan, Norman Rockwell and Corot some time ago (August 16 - "Some More Confusing Crotons") to distinguish those similar looking varieties. I have yet to see (in person) a plant resembling the Richard Krukonis pictured in the book. Ricky's photo looks like a Reagan to me.
     
  12. TikiRick

    TikiRick Well-Known Member

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    Nancy Reagan smoked pot. LOL
     
  13. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    .....and she's still alive and well. That must be the secret.
     
  14. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Didn' t seem to help George Harrison, Bob Marley, Jerry Garcia, Jimi Hendrix, Mama Cass, Warren Zevon, Janis Joplin, Timothy Leary, Patrick Swazey, Keith Moon, John Phillips, Frank Zappa, David Carradine, Heath Ledger, Ana Nicole Smith, Len Bias, Bruce Lee ...

    Back to Crotons:Where can we locate a true Richard Krukonis? :eek:
     
  15. Jeff Searle

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    Ron,

    You have alot of friends!

    But, you actually know someone that has a Richard Krukonis.......
     
  16. Phil Stager

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    However, Queen Victoria is the only toker I know of who has a croton named for her. She reputedly used it for menstrual cramps and pain. now back to crotons...
     
  17. keith

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    Richard Krukonis is the one croton I have been looking to find, and after all these
    years, I have not seen it. I think it has left this world never to be seen again.
     
  18. Moose

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    I heard a pretty strong rumor that someone from this forum found one in Hawaii over a year ago. :cool: Just hoping it did not cark. :)
     
  19. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Nah it was Arthur Howe not RK....false alarm.
     

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