RED SPIDER

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  1. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    Is this a common plant ? Is there many out there ? any pictures ?
     
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  3. Phil Stager

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    Not super rare since I got one from Moose and one from Cookie - same plant but with different names - fairly fast grower.
     
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  4. Kingdavid

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    Thanks . I had never seen one , my friend called and told me he had a large one and wanted to see if i wanted it . Its a neat plant with really cool colors , will try to post tomorrow . Looks like a version of the Red Thai ...
     
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    What is different about that plant and red wizard/queen of siam?
     
  6. Phil Stager

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    See attached pics. The Siam one has bigger dots and is very slow growing; two different ones shown; Red Spider was also labeled Coppinger's Coral Shower and both plants are fairly good growers. One of the Siams is about three ft. away from the Red Spider. DSCN5724.JPG DSCN5725.JPG DSCN5726.JPG DSCN5727.JPG
     
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    002.JPG 002.JPG 041.JPG 001.JPG Now here is my RED THAI kinda close but mainly reds .. 041.JPG
     

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  9. Kingdavid

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    As you can see the Red Spider and the Red Thai are pretty close . The Red Thai seems to grow more Leggy to me .
     
  10. Phil Stager

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    Dave -
    Your first set of pics above looks a lot more like Spiralis than the Thai one.
     
  11. Kingdavid

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    SPIRALIS .. havent heard of that one . That is different than Red Spider ?
     
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    Spiralis, Cascade, and two of Interuptum DSCN5728.JPG DSCN5730.JPG DSCN5731.JPG DSCN5732.JPG
     
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    Hold on a minute. Now there are 5 plants and even more names, and I have no idea which plant is connected to which name. I'm totally lost here. Phil, you are usually crystal clear, but I'm beyond confused. Forget everything else for a minute. My question was based on the pic moose posted as red spider. How is that different from queen of siam in Brown's book? David, what are you calling the red thai?
     
  14. Jeff Searle

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    Yea, I'm a little lost too. But.....one thing I know for sure, the pic's in #7 are NOT Spirale. Spirale has a distinct twirl in the leaf.
     
  15. Phil Stager

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    First set of pics I posed showed - in this order - Red Thai type (aka king or Queen of Siam), two of Red Spider (one of which was sold to me as Coppinger's Coral Shower) and final one of Red Thai type.
    other set of pics were of other spiraly type crotons that may or may not be confused with the above ones.
    onward through the fog....
     
  16. Kingdavid

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    # 7 is different pics of the same Red Spider plant #8 Is what i thought was Red Thai , i believe i got from Jeff . The two side by side are quite different > My Queen of Siam is way different looking
     
  17. Kingdavid

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    The Red Thai picture , I call Red Thai...
     
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    King and Queen side by side On mine the Queen doesnt show color until 6 or 7 leave sets go by 055.JPG
     
  19. Kingdavid

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    Not to confuse things but In another post ill show what i think is a third Siam Type King , Queen , and ???? .
     
  20. Jeff Searle

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    David,

    Did you get your Red Thai from me? If so, this is a plant I brought back from Thailand(my first trip) in 1998. And I just always called it Red Thai, for the lack of no other name. I gave it to Judy Glock many years ago also.
     
  21. Kingdavid

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    Yes i got it from one of your sales. Neat plant . Its a good grower , doesnt mind the cold weathre at all . Did an airlayers to try 2 locations seems to like half day of sun bset ... Thanks
     

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