REAL JOHANNIS ??

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Kingdavid, Dec 11, 2014.

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  1. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    040.JPG 006.JPG 2 different plants ..... Your thoughts..... Not really sure if this is the correct name ? Ive seen others called the same name ,,, The greener one has 22 inch leaves ... the other has only 15 inch leaves 155.JPG 156.JPG
     
  2. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    Dave, Your first one look a lot like one I have called "Von Oosterezeii"
     
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  3. kwmarko

    kwmarko Active Member

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    David, the leaves of the first two posts are incredable! May I ask what is in the first pic behind the croton in question? (The smaller leafed mostly all yellow) ...thank you, Mark
     
  4. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Joannis is a well-established and fairly common cultivar. Generally cream colored on green and lots of interrupted leaves. None of the above look a lot like it other than they are all narrow leafed varieties. Good looking plants whatever they are.
     
  5. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    David I don't have any clue what they are but I will post my Johannis as per pg 79 Dr. Brown.
     
  6. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    David - this is what I have as Johannis which came from Mike Woolery several years past. No dots or spots of yellow, the coloring is kinda creamy. Also sporadically throws interrupted leaves.
     
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  7. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    Thanks for everyones thoughts , havent seen any pics of Von Oosterezii . Any pics out there ??? And Thanks for the pic f real Johannis
     
  8. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    David, there's a couple in the wiki.
     
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  9. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    Heres the next question .... Is it a common plant , uncommon plant , kinda rare i just dont know much about them .....
     
  10. Moose

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    David - I would venture to say that this croton is well represented in many a collector's garden. Probably not found as a garden variety croton in others. This was a croton introduced by Veitch & Sons to England. They were not hybridists but a plant collectors. This was probably discovered somewhere around East Asia. With the advent of the Miami Hybridizers who focused on mostly large leaved crotons, many of the smaller and thin leaved original varieties may have fallen out of favor. If it were not for Frank Brown, the Croton Society and collectors, this croton may have disappeared or been forgotten.
     
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  11. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Drop dead common; no one bothers to bring them to meeting since they do not sell.
     
  12. kwmarko

    kwmarko Active Member

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