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Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Bills, Sep 18, 2013.

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  1. Bills

    Bills Banned

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    back in town from fl landscape show in orlando
     

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  2. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Anna -
    Most of the solitary Veitchias do reasonably well in my yard and at the Kopsick Palm Arboretum. I've got a V. montgomeryana and an unknown here. Do you have a copy of:
    An Encyclopedia of Cultivated Palms , 2nd edition by Riffle, Craft and Zona. Well worth the money.
     
  3. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Of course, the return of a severe freeze would wipe out Veitchias all the way down to Ft. Myers along the coast and further south inland. I have to add a dose of reality here. Veitchia is a tropical palm that can be only be grown reliably on a latitude line south of Lake Okeechobee. Anything north of that can be wiped out any given winter. That said, you could plant one today and enjoy it for 20 years. There's always a gamble when you push the envelope.
     
  4. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Thanks, Phil and Ray. Phil, I do have the book, but it's the first edition. I find it's pretty conservative with zone recommendations, so I do try to ask others around me that grow that species also. The book says Zone 10b-11, but it seems to say that for most species. Ray, we have all been there that one winter that takes our precious favorite plants with one or two blows. Let's hope we don't get one of those soon. It's always a gamble, but you only live once and you have to try. Sometimes it works.
     
  5. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Ray - 20 years seems about right. These are pretty hardy palms relative to their "tropical" requirements. They are pretty fast and recover rather quickly from a harsh winter. At the twenty year mark, they have pushed themselves above the canopy or wind breaking protection. Exposing the meristem up so high to frost and sub freezing temps can do them in. They are truly beautiful palms, they just happen to be common. If they were rare, they would fetch handsome prices. Fortunately being readily available makes them reasonably priced. :)
     
  6. andy

    andy Active Member

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    Anna,
    veitchia joannis is the first one
    then the 3 next to it is
    veitchia winin Ill get some pics of them when im back in town
     
  7. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Thanks, Andy for the answer! They sure are pretty. Do they stay slim like that?
     
  8. andy

    andy Active Member

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    Anna, those are in full sun for the last 4+ years and have gotten a little fatter, I have some in heavy shade and they are a little slimmer
     

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  9. andy

    andy Active Member

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    With the anticipation of the rainforest collection sale Oct 4,5,6,
    I dug up some old philodendrons and 2 more to come out, made some room for both palms and crotons added some more irrigation I know what im getting and even digging holes tomorrow, Im ready
     

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  10. Bills

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    I thought that was my space for crotons since I don't have a yard
     
  11. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Lol! I'm with you on this one!
     
  12. donroberth

    donroberth Well-Known Member

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    Hello Andy...thanks again for sharing these beautiful fotos of your tropical garden. This is my second visit and this time I clicked on every foto in order to better appreciate your collection...WOW, what a bunch of work, time and $$$ you have invested. "A LABOR OF LOVE" I'm sure, I congratulate you sir! :)
     
  13. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Andy, the veitchias are beautiful. Thanks for all the info. You are very ambitious to have your areas ready in advance! I frequently end up impulse buying and my plans fall by the wayside. We'll see.
     
  14. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Nice Attalea.
     

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