Pride of Winter Haven?

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by rpebinger, Dec 12, 2010.

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  1. rpebinger

    rpebinger Active Member

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    Calling all relatives of camel or moose digits :D....you teased up the croton named for the pride of my digs on a certain palmy forum cuttings/air layering thread. Now you've peeked my interested, can you or anyone else show me a pic of the "Pride of Winter Haven"?

    Much appreciation,

    Rich
     
  2. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    We had a Croton Society Holiday Social today in Ft. Myers. There was a cutting of one there. Let me see if I have some photos of mine somewhere. Welcome aboard, the people here are very friendly and helpful.

    Ron. :)
     
  3. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Pride of Winter Haven from the Wiki pictures...
     

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  4. rpebinger

    rpebinger Active Member

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    Thank you Ron & Scott. Not an exceptionally brilliant or colorful specimen - but an attractive one none the less :cool:.

    How did the holiday extravaganza go today in Ft. Myers?

    What can anyone speak to with respect to crotons' hardiness to Old Man Winter and what has - despicably - become more of a trend than not here in the past few years? As I pull out tropicals that perish during cold spells - I am not inclined to replace these in kind. The hardier the merrier :eek:IMO.

    I appreciate it,

    Rich
     
  5. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Rich - Here are some old photos from Oct. 2009 when I got my Pride of Winter Haven. It is now over 4 ft tall and 3 ft. wide and very dense. Some leaves measure over 20 inches long. The wiki photo does not show nice coloration. Mine is very colorful at this time of year. I will try and post an updated photo tomorrow. This is the best I can do for now. :rolleyes:


    FYI - Camels come from a different continent. LOL :p

    Ron. :)
     

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  6. rpebinger

    rpebinger Active Member

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    Great looking croton Ron!

    the more I dive into this (sub)tropical foilage & palm growing hobby - the more amazed I am with the diversity of species and variety of cultivars growing :cool:!

    So many species to try and so little space. Not to mention - this unforgiving winter weather. It makes one feel as frustrated this time of year as it does make one feel proud come July/August.

    If only $ were no object and a job did not dictate my living locale. I would love nothing more than to be in a zone 11+ location - never having to run out and try and cover and protect the tender stuff in the ground.

    Tropical wishes and zone 11 dream,

    Rich
     
  7. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    Rich, This is the same exact plant as the WIKI photo. This pic was taken this week. It gets full afternoon sun & has colored up nicely. I was never pleased with the WIKI photo as an example of this cultivar.

    Randy
     

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  8. rpebinger

    rpebinger Active Member

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    Randy,

    Very nice coloration indeed! Does anyone know the lineage or reasoning behind this cultivar getting its name from Winter Haven? Not knowing enought about the croton species yet - I'm guessing that the ?? hybridizer ?? hailed from Winter Haven, FL?

    I have a few I need an ID on....I'll start another thread.

    Thanks Randy,

    Rich
     
  9. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Rich - you are a palm person like myself. This will warp your noodle, all crotons are the same "species". There are just different variants and/or cultivars. They are genetically unstable and morph often. :eek:

    I am unsure about the history of the Pride of Winter Haven cultivar. I am sure someone will chime in here. Ray are you out there? :rolleyes:
     
  10. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    I recall that the original plant was found in a cemetary in Winterhaven, ergo the name. Thnere's a bit of variation from thin leaf to wider leaf cultivars, and lighting condition also affect the coloring.
     
  11. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Sorry about the delay. Here is what it looks like as of this morning. It has seen 37 F three times already this cold season, once on consecutive mornings. It is semi-protected from the wind as I have crotons lumped together. Third image shows from left to right: Dr. Frank Brown, Pride of Winterhaven, Green & Gold (dropping leaves like crazy again) and Queen Victoria to the far right.
     

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  12. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    There should be a nice potted air layer of this croton available at the November Croton Tour Auction at the Searle homestead. It was not established enough to make the St. Pete trip unfortunately. :)
     

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