I have clump of Pleranda that show all the leaf shapes that the plant goes through as it ages. The King palm isnt very old...but I've waited for it to be a real good sized palm,and its almost got there. It was a trio..the one gallon I had planted with the other two (7 and 5 gallon sized at the time) was killed by the 2007 winter. King palms in the bay area are far from common. Tall King palms are rare to find- out there,but hard to find. The Pleranda was bought around 2006 as a 6" potted plant.