Please help me ID these

[junglegal]

Perhaps Baron Le Compte? 1st & 3rd pic are same plant.


4th pic is a cutting I got last fall but I forgot from where.
The older leaves were cut when I got it but they are broad leaf.

 

[Marie Nock]

#1 and #3 could be Ethyl Craig. In Brown's first book he says tha Ethyl Criag is the most pointed leaf croton.

#2 could be William Craig. You'll need to see how the new leaves color up.

 

[junglegal]

Marie,
Thank you! I think you are right about Ethyl Craig. Looking at the wiki pics, I can see the similarities now. I had a 10 gal William Craig in 06 but lost it over that winter. I sure hope you are right about William because I think it's a stunner.

Who were/are Ethyl and William Craig? I'd love to capture that factoid in WIKI.

 

[Jeff Searle]

Marie,
Thank you! I think you are right about Ethyl Craig. Looking at the wiki pics, I can see the similarities now. I had a 10 gal William Craig in 06 but lost it over that winter. I sure hope you are right about William because I think it's a stunner.

Who were/are Ethyl and William Craig? I'd love to capture that factoid in WIKI.

A little info. I pulled up. The William Craig croton was not developed by W.C.(of the Craig nursery)himself, but by a gentle named John Matthew of Miami. Mr. Craig made numerous trips to Miami and was well liked by the croton growers of that time. How's that Bren?
Jeff

 

[Crotonologist]

Who were/are Ethyl and William Craig? I'd love to capture that factoid in WIKI.

My guess is that they were part of the Robert Craig family from Philadelphia who imported a collection of crotons from Europe and then developed a lot of new crotons way back in the mid-nineteenth century....
I'll see if I can dig up a few references...
Also, I think the correct spelling is probably Ethel, as that is how the name was spelled for many many years...
Ethyl refers to a group of chemicals...

 

[junglegal]

Thank you Jeff. I added that info to the WIKI. Hopefully Crotonologist can dig up some additional info too.