Pheasant Tail

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Moose, Mar 10, 2012.

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  1. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Carol Graff mentioned this cultivar in her article, WHAT'S IN A NAME? in the March 2009 Croton Society Newsletter. Is anyone on this forum growing Pheasant Tail? Could someone possibly post a photo? :confused:
     
  2. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    No one growing? Any history or info on this cultivar?

    Bueller?

    Bueller?
     
  3. Central Floridave

    Central Floridave Active Member

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    I had a pheasant tail a couple years ago but it croaked in one of the freezes we experienced. I remember it was a thin leaf croton.
     
  4. andymaycen

    andymaycen Member

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    I have this one....it's beautiful.
     
  5. andymaycen

    andymaycen Member

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    I can prop some.....
     
  6. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    How about a photo...
     
  7. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Never heard of it.
     
  8. andymaycen

    andymaycen Member

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    It's in the Croton Encyclopedia under the name Majesticum....
     
  9. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    The wiki says "Commonly known as pheasants tail."
    So there is no 'Pheasant Tail' croton...?
    'Majesticum' is the correct name apparently...
     
  10. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Majesticum reminds me more of Rat's Tail or Opossum's Tail.
     
  11. Central Floridave

    Central Floridave Active Member

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    I found this photo in my archives. Is this it?

    DSCN4858.jpg
     
  12. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Nope, looks more like Interuptum (which freuqently does not interupt - at least for me - and is also cold sensitive. Too late tonight to take a pic of Majesticum.
     
  13. andymaycen

    andymaycen Member

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    I have a great pic of one. Can't post here my iPad won't let me...maybe send me an email : andymaycen@me.com I'll send you a photo of mine.
     
  14. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    First two pics of Majesticum in the yard today; original plant was a rooted cutting from John Bender. Leaves are approx. 18" long and can easily get upto 24". Recall that pic on p38 of Dr. Brown's book is mislabeled as Picturatum and that Majesticum is not in the Index. Picturatum leaves are about 9 - 12" long as in 3rd pic.
     

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  15. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    So it appears that the name, Pheasant Tail is not valid and that the real name is Majesticum, which is quite common.
     
  16. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Andy e-mailed this photo via his i-phone. This is what he has as Pheasant Tail out in Hawaii.
     

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  17. Rags

    Rags Active Member

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    From the looks of it Majesticum and Pheasant Tail are the same.....
     
  18. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Mike, I guess this is where I saw it. What is the verdict? Does it exist or no? Is it a synonym of Majesticum? Should it be deleted from the wiki? Onward through the fog...again. Any answers I can act on? Thanks.
     
  19. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Hey, this isn't only for Mike, I'm asking everyone what to do about this in the wiki. Is Pheasant's Tail one to delete? Does it exist? Is it a synonym for Majesticum? Anyone?:confused: I'm trying to improve the wiki. Thanks.
     
  20. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Delete it
     
  21. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    If Pheasant Tail has not been deleted, I would suggest leaving the following: "Pheasant Tail is identified as Majesticum in The Christian Papers."

    The name Pheasant Tail is out there in some places. If you were a newbie coming to the Wiki to see if your Pheasant Tail was listed or looking for info - there would not be anything there. Hence, the "misnamed" cultivar perpetuates, they would be unaware to this info.

    When I get a cultivar from someone, I go by the name given. Until evidence is given to its "original" or "generally accepted" name.

    Les we forget, there are so many more lurkers visiting this forum and the Wiki then there are registered members.

    Just my personal opinion :)
     
  22. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    I agree with the Moose. Many Crotons have more than one name. The names should be cross referenced with original and aka's. Example: Are we going to throw out the very well known Mrs Iceton name and go only with Appleleaf? No way! We are a very small group and can not rewrite the history of names, but we can tell the history.
     
  23. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Thanks, Ron, will do. Ana
     

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