OT: shovels

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  1. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Any advice or source for sharp weighted shovels? My old place had great soil. Now when I try to plant, my current shovels stink. I need something to cut through roots. I tried to sharpen mine with the dremmel but they have ridges and don't sharpen well. I'm dealing with old pine roots that wandered after years of no irrigation.
     
  2. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    I keep beating the same drum, but it really workes for me. image.jpg
     
  3. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Unfortunately Lamar is spot on. Pine roots are very hard and shovels glance off of them. Large lopping shears will also work.
     
  4. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    It's gonna be a long year planting. I do have a sawzall. Maybe I should just dig holes all winter in prep for spring planting. Wish I were 10yrs younger right now!!
     
  5. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    having just watch Morelli Landscaping transplant 400 odd cycads, all the workers use a shovel that has a blade almost parallel to the handle. I've seen them called 'pony shovels' and a few other names. The few I've seen for sale are expensive in comparison to anything you'd get at a big box store. But the workers were in their 20s and early 30s which makes a big difference....
     
  6. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    I have one of those Phil & have had it for 8 years. I think it was near $100 & worth every penny.
     
  7. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    $100 sounds down right dreamy right now.
     
  8. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    The shovel you want is sold by Bushel Stop. It's $52, heavy, straight blade, and sharp. It's NOT going to cut roots thicker than 2", though, and you'll want a sharp saw for those.
     
  9. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Thanks Ricky but unfortunately, they don't ship. I'm in St. Pete. At least I know the type of tool I need now.
     
  10. Kipjanet

    Kipjanet Active Member

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    The shovel that landscapers use is very heavy with a flat blade you will know that this is no regular shovel and you can pick one up at any landscape supply store. Buy a grinder to keep the blade sharp, and call for underground utility locations on your property this service is free and well worth the phone call just need your folio #
     
  11. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    Call #811 in Florida for free utility line marking.
     
  12. kwtimo

    kwtimo Well-Known Member

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    The name of the shovels you are talking about are called Cap Rock/Irrigation shovels. Like all tools, there is a range of qualities of these products. I purchased a heavy, all steel shovel with a very thick walled steel handle. I purchased it from an Ebay seller named The Landscaper Store. He is based somewhere in Florida. The shovel was named "This Little Piggy". Weighing in at least 10 pounds, the sheer weight of the shovel helps to break though stone and roots with less effort. The thick blade can be resharpened for better performance and is extremely durable. This shovel was worth every penny of the $100 it cost, and it would be even at $125 or so. I have had them for years of difficult digging in the Keys. Don't get suckered into buying inferior quality lower cost shovels that are not made with a very heavy gauge steel. I made the mistake of doing that, the product was about $75, and the handle bent with little effort very quickly, making the shovel basically useless. Jim Glock saw my "Little Piggy" a couple of weeks ago and was really impressed. He wanted the info from the seller to get one for himself.
     
  13. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Excellent info! Thank you. I've had my property marked twice recently for fencers then landscapers. I had to have this property graded & 50 yds of topsoil brought in. That was after the giant monkey pod tree in back came down. This place was really ugly in march. I have a gas line marked along my back fence.
     
  14. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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  15. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Tim,

    Great info your giving. It's obvious because your a landscaper AND you dig many a holes in pure rock down in the lower Keys. LOL! So, a very good quality shovel is well worth it's weight in gold. And one will cost right around $100 each, maybe a little less. We've bought many from Universal Ent. down here in south Florida. The most important thing is to get a shovel with a straight shank. These are made strickly for digging. Many nurseries make their own by welding a pipe to the head of the shevel for a more heavier shovel.
     
  16. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Moose, thanks for the link. I just got their catalog and they gave me $20 off the shovel!
     
  17. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    My god this thing is a god send. At 9.5#, one good slam in ground and it's like butter. Best $100 I've spent in this yard. Thank you all for recommendations
     

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  18. kurt decker

    kurt decker Well-Known Member

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    If you don't have one, get a little wheel grinder (harbor freight $16.) and keep that thing sharp. They are twice as effective, just watch your toes.
     

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