One of the finest unknowns

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Crazy for Crotons, Jul 23, 2009.

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  1. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    How it looked in January 2009
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    July 2009
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  2. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    Ray,
    I know the name of that one, its called "Start Sharing it"

    Looks amazing!
     
  3. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Wow! Did you ever get an ID for this one? Stunning!
     
  4. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm..there is an air layer of this available. What do you guys think, auction at the next meeting? It took the cold like a champ.
     
  5. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Looks like Stoplight in pluperfect condition.
     
  6. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    I agree, it does look like Stoplight. But what's the pink Croton to its right?
     
  7. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    The leaf shape isn't right for Stoplight. Bon Alonzo thought it might be a Christian hybrid. The croton to the right has now met the dead individual for which it was named, Raphael.
     
  8. koki

    koki Active Member

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    Will it look as good when it leaves Ray's magic garden?
     
  9. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Magical?? This death camp?! LOL
     
  10. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Any updates on this cultivar??? :rolleyes:
     
  11. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Shameless bump. Ray did it make it? What happened to the air layer? :rolleyes:
     
  12. keith

    keith Active Member

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    The air layer is looking good in my garden, Ray needs to put a name on it.
     
  13. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Tough as nails for me. It's one of the hardiest crotons in my garden. I'd name it but Bob Alonzo swears it's a Christian hybrid.
     
  14. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    I wouldnt mind one of these Ray!
     
  15. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    BTW.....where you staying this weekend for the big sale?:)
     
  16. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I'll throw some air layers on for you guys. Besides mine, Keith and Judy have some of the offspring.
     
  17. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Ray - will an air layer of this unknown cultivar make it to the upcoming November Croton Garden Tour auction ? :confused:

     
  18. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ron, I didn't air layer that one this summer but am adding it to the to-do list for spring. I already have you penciled in for Christiana.
     
  19. Moose

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    Thanks Ray, very much appreciated. :) Keith has prevously suggested you name this cultivar. May I suggest that "Tough-as-Nails" may be appropriate name ? :confused:

     
  20. keith

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    Moose, I have a few of this plant now, remind me later and I will bring you one to Jeffs croton tour.
     
  21. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    I am going to have to agree with Phil and Ricky.It sure looks like a Stoplight to me??I have a Stoplight that looks exactly like this one??Ray what are the differences between this one and Stoplight??Perhaps this one is like Irene Kingsley and Satan,Very tiny differences but essentially the same plant??
     
  22. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    The leaf shape is not Stoplight. I've never seen a stoplight with such a well defined taper from the fatter portion of the leaf to the narrower section. If it was a Stoplight, Bob Alonzo surely would have recognized it.
     
  23. Judy Glock

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    I have to agree with Ray. I have mine planted in the Keys. It does not resemble my Stoplight in coloration or leaf shape.
     
  24. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Thanks Keith, it definitely needs to get established on the East Coast. :eek: It appears to have made it into several collections out West. :)

     
  25. Moose

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    Keith came through! ;) It is defitely not a Stoplight! As a matter of fact, this croton got moved around from place to place trying to get it the best lighting. Chris (pocomo) has asked, wow what is that? Each time it was in a different location. It keeps attracting his "croton eye". Chris would not react to a Stoplight like that. :p

    Thanks for remembering me Keith! :cool:
     

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  26. Moose

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    I agree with you Keith. If its an unnamed Christian hybrid, then that can be acknowledged. Alot of comments are made on this plant from visitors to the Moose Land. You've already kinda named it Ray. Its going around as "The Finest Unknown". You found it, got it back into cultivation. That makes you the adoptive Daddy. Time to give it a "sexy name" in my opinion. :D
     
  27. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    When Bob saw this plant in my garden, he did a double take and thought it "could" be Tapestry. He later said he was pretty sure it wasn't but the doubt was there. I'm not starting rumors or misidentifying plants but the older black and red leaves sure look the part.

    Here are some photos Lee sent me of the real Tapestry. It's not a dead ringer but the leaf shape is right. Could light exposure make up for the subtle differences?
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  28. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    What a beautiful plant. There should be one in Palm Beach, ya know for safe keeping.:rolleyes:
     
  29. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Yes, this is one I fell in love with the first time I saw it.
     
  30. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Here is an updated photo of the same plant from about an hour ago.

    It looked dried out so I was giving it a good soaking. When I stepped back, I had to go fetch the camera! :eek:
     

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  31. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes:Stoplight at the dooryard. All pics are different examples north/east/south side of the joint.
     

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