New WIKI feature: Master list of Names

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  1. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    You can now view all the names in one alphabetized list. Especially helpful if you want to look up a hybrid but you don't know what leaf type it is. I got the idea after looking at Searle's list for the Extravaganza and realizing I had no clue what some (OK, most) looked like.

    Please peruse and let me know what names may be missing. These are direct links to their prospective pages.
    http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/index.php/Category:MASTER_NAME_LIST

    There are aprox 400 names so far.

    This page is accessible from the main page of the croton WIKI
     
  2. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Awesome Bren, that feature should prove to be most helpful. :cool:

    Your dedication to this task you undertook is amazing. :)

    Many thanks!

    Kindest regards,

    Ron.
     
  3. Dypsisdean

    Dypsisdean Administrator Staff Member

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    Yes, Bren is the "bomb."

    I intend to redo the main entry point to the Croton Listings to make it look a little more polished and user friendly when I get minute or two soon.
     
  4. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    No thanks needed Ron, I just want everyone to step up with pics & info now.

    We've got the makings for an excellent croton resource unrivaled by any other website at the moment. It's success depends on all of us. ;)
     
  5. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Bren,

    Thank-you, you have done a lot of leg work and I for one appreciate all your hard work. There are some corrections I feel are worthy of change. For example, Pig in a Blanket is Wooton Beauty. Another one is, Dr Gilbert Cutler should be Captain Gilbert Cutler. I noticed a few more,

    Delaruye = Juliette Delarue

    Disraeli = Mrs Snyder Disraeli

    Giesha Girl = Geisha Girl

    Honeycomb = Davis #3

    Ruebens = Rubens

    Scarecrow = Heaven ( my own plants and realized their one and the same)

    To the Left = ( my own plant, again named already)

    William Jennings = William Jennings Bryan

    Zadroga = Dreer #7

    If anyone thinks differently, please feel free to add your thoughts.


    Jeff
     
  6. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    THIS is what I was hoping for!! Jeff's changes will be made in the wiki by COB tomorrow. Everything is open for discussion and anyone can change the wiki lest they feel different.

    Thank you Jeff!
     
  7. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Bren,
    This is the start of something really great. Thanks so much!
    Marie
     
  8. Central Floridave

    Central Floridave Active Member

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    that's a lot of work. good job!

    I noticed Picasso Paintbrush is missing on the P's.
     
  9. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Jeff,

    Is honeycomb a synonym for Davis 3?
    Which name are you keeping, scarecrow or Heaven?
    Is Zadroga a synonym or was the picture misID'd?
    All other changes have been made.

    Dave,
    I've sine added all the very narrow leafed varieties to the master list

    Thanks
     
  10. Plant Nut

    Plant Nut Active Member

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    This will prove helpful and much better than a book because, it can easily be edited and updated. You are moving right along Junglegal; Great job! Do you think we should have a special heading for Thai hybrids?
     
  11. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Palm Nut,
    I'm sure Dean would add the page. It would be nice to capture some of Sergey's great plants he posts.
     
  12. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Bren,

    Yes, Honeycomb is a synonym for Davis #3.
    Heaven is the name for both plants, they are the same.
    Based on Bob Alonzo, Zadroga is a made up name for Dreer #3. I think David M. came up with Zadroga.

    I hope this helps.


    Jeff
     
  13. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Thanks, helps a lot.
    I've removed scarecrow and moved the picture to Heaven's entry page.
     
  14. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Get on it Big Dog! :p Bren did all the grunt work, a refinement to the entry point is really needed now. :cool: Has anyone noticed how many hits this forum has been getting in the last month? I've seen 14 non-members logged on a few times. Compared to just three months ago, that is amazing.
     
  15. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Bren,
    Here are some names that can be added to the Master List:
    ARTHUR HOWE
    BLOTCHED CAROT
    BLOTCHED WOOTEN BEAUTY
    BRILLIANTISSIMA
    CHALLENGER
    COLUMBIA
    CORNELIUS
    CORNELIUS HALGRIM
    DOLORES
    ELEANOR FICHLER
    ELLEN RUTHERFORD
    EMERALD SHOWER
    GREEN DEVIL
    JENSENII
    JOANN ROOF
    KELLY
    KEY WEST
    KRAKATOA
    LEOTA
    MACKENZIE
    MERCER
    MICHAEL FERRARO
    NOBLISSIMA
    OAK LEAF SUPERBA
    PAPPEY
    PASTOR ABEL
    PLAID OAK
    PRINCE OF SIAM
    PUCCINI
    TWIST AND TURN
    YELLOW AMABILE
    YELLOW BRAVO
    YELLOW DAYSPRING
    YELLOW MAMMEY
    YELLOW ICETON

    I'll have some more names soon. Thanks.
     
  16. Dypsisdean

    Dypsisdean Administrator Staff Member

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    I would like to remind everyone that with the exception of a very few protected pages ANYONE can edit, add, rearrange, create pages, or otherwise contribute.

    Try clicking on the "Edit" tab at the top sometime and play around. You can see what you have changed by clicking the "Preview" button at the bottom. Your changes are not saved until you click the "Save" button. And even if you completely screw it up, I can "rollback" the page to any previous version with a simple click.

    So if you see a typo, or grammatical error, etc. change it. Or if you have some info about a particular variety, add it to the page.

    In addition, some of you have realized that discussions about IDs of particular varieties can be carried out using the "Discussion" tab, so as to have the different opinions always easily accesible and available.

    Just give it a try and then you too can help out.

    And MooseMan - we are getting a lot of hits, and picking up some momentum. I hope everyone has noticed that each page has a counter at the bottom to keep track of how many visitors hit on that page. It's a good way to see how much traffic is happening.
     
  17. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    This is great! Thanks Marie, I'll get them in soon!
     
  18. Dypsisdean

    Dypsisdean Administrator Staff Member

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    Marie,

    How can we twist your arm for some pics of these and others we don't have??? :)
     
  19. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Marie,

    What do you know about Pastor Able? Because mine in the yard, (maybe a Dave M. name?) turned out to be General Marshall, according to Bob A.

    Alot of new ones out there......:)
     
  20. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Jeff,
    Pastor Abel is a Dave M. name but it doesn't look anything like my Gen. Marshall.
    Marie
     
  21. Dypsisdean

    Dypsisdean Administrator Staff Member

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    I have no problem adding any kind of page you guys think would be useful. Just say the word.

    I'll bet you that Sergey is good enough with a computer to add and help maintain such a page. Russians are wizards with computers. :) What about it Sergey?

    I'll be happy to set it up if I know it will be used. What should we call it? Simply "Thai Hybrids," or something else?
     
  22. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Additional names have been added to the wiki. They are in the master list but also in the TBC (to be categorized) leaf category. If you know what leaf type they are, please move them to the appropriate type. Thanks
     
  23. Sergey

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    Dean,

    I’ll be happy to contribute. Not many Thai crotons which I’d uploaded are with IDs now, but I’m planning to visit Thailand in January’11, hope it will help to clear up the situation. Is it ok to call a new page “Thai Нybrids” and make subdivisions within? -

    Round leaf
    Oval leaf
    Interrupted leaf
    Spiral leaf
    Broad base leaf
    Linear leaf
    Different leaf
     
  24. Sergey

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    Bren,

    Thank You Very Much for your initiative. I believe it’s becoming the best croton on-line reference resource.
     
  25. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    No problem Sergey, it wasn't all that hard and I'm glad to see the momentum turning. My job is pretty well done now. I can just sit back and learn.
     
  26. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Great job! Got to go back and re-read the list carefully but Carot, Carow, Carrot and other variations on this spelling should all be Corot - named for the French painter Email Corot.

    Phil
     
  27. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    *&^%$#@! typos - Jean-Baptiste-Camille Corot is correct full name.
     
  28. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Phil,
    I took the name carow from Dr. Brown's book in the index. I loaded Corot from page 25, you sure it's the full name since the other artists don't use the full name. I googled Corot knowing it was named after the artist so inserted the little blurb of how it's name came to be. If the full name is official, we can easily change it.
    As I further perused the pictorial index to load page names, I also noticed the discrepancy of Van Houti vs. Van Houtti on the pic, which is correct?
    These kind of observances are good!
     
  29. Dypsisdean

    Dypsisdean Administrator Staff Member

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    Sergey,

    Give me a day or two and I'll set it up. It can be "your baby." I am sure you will be able to figure out how to manage and edit it. If not, I will be watching and can help out. Perhaps some others will add to it as well.

    It will be easier for you to upload your photos directly to the WIKI instead of someone downloading them from the Forum and then uploading them again. If you need help getting started, let me know. But you can upload 10 at a time by clicking on "Upload Files" in the left sidebar of any WIKI page. Check the syntax for making the photo appear on a page by clicking the "edit" tab at the top. To add a page, go to the Search Box and enter the name and then search. You will find an option for creating the page if none exists.

    I think we will need to provide some name to each unnamed hybrid, so at least they can be referred to and discussed. Maybe just a number, perhaps something like TH 101, TH 102, referring to a Thai Hybrid without a name. Once a name is discovered or proposed, it is easy to change it. Think about it.
     

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