In Robert's recent thread about this plant he mentioned that at some time in the past Ray commented that Fred Sanders was originally Mrs. Fred Sanders. Ray went on to say that over time/use, the Mrs. was dropped and the cultivar has been called Fred Sanders. Now, Robert feels the croton should be called by its original Mrs. Fred Sanders if this is correct. Does anyone know anything about the history of this cultivar? Should it be entered in the wiki as Fred Sanders or Mrs. Fred Sanders? Should there be a mention that these are synonymous? Robert also says these names are synonymous with Earl of Derby. I also don't know anything about this either. Should the three go in as synonymous? I hope some of you can clarify this for me. I'm not sure a name change can be based on a comment Ray made years ago or can it? Robert, please correct me if I am wrong on any of the above accounts/comments. I prefer not to be the go-between in case I am mistaken about anything. Thanks, everyone.