Keith's crotons

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by annafl, Jul 24, 2013.

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  1. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    I went to visit Keith yesterday and left with mental overload. Lots of beautiful hybrids new to me and I venture to say new to many of you. I wanted to show some of the photos I took: 1)First 3 are John Halgrim Jr. (Halgrim hybrid) 2)Next 3 are Pandora-An unknown hybrid obtained at the Edison Estate and named Pandora.
     

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  2. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Next ones are: 3)First 3 are Nocatee (Halgrim hybrid), 4)Next two are Sanborn Jr. 5)Last 3 are Confetti
     

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  3. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    6)Yellow Quill-Keith's sport off a red quill he named Yellow Quill 7)White Tapestry are the next three:eek:
     

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  4. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    I have 3 more but I have to run, so I will post them later. I was going to put these in the wiki and I was hoping someone (?Scott) could right the ones that I have sideways. Thanks so much! Enjoy. Ana
     
  5. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Nice plants Keith,I will take one of each. Thanks for posting Anna.
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  6. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    one more!
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  7. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    8)Skeet Jones (2), 9)Cornelius Halgrim (3) and 10) Seminole Queen (3) with its huge leaves!

    Unfortunately, these photos don't do these plants justice. That Cornelius Halgrim was to die for!:eek:
    Hey Scott, could you turn the couple right side up? Thanks! Enjoy.

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  8. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    :cool: I need one or two of this one myself.
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  9. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    It's nice to see these rarely seen cultivars. Beautiful!
     
  10. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

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    One I forgot: Florida Sunset (Halgrim hybrid) A real beauty with hot pink colors!:cool:
     
  11. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

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    In my hurry, I also forgot Rapture (first two) and Revelation (last two)

    Keith mentioned something about East-coast and West-coast varieties of these. Any discussions?
     
  12. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    Ana, My Revelation does have a bit of a different look. Mine is much tighter with larger leaves, but I've given cuttings to some locals & theirs now look different. Thanks for the pics of Keith's plants.;) Any more?
     
  13. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Wow ,pics look great,those are some seldom seen varieties.My Revelation looks very different than the one pictured??

     
  14. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    So, what should we do about the wiki? East coast vs. west coast Revelation? And let's see some photos so the rest of us can be privy to what you mean, please!:p
     
  15. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    An "East Coast" Revelation for comparison.;) DSC_0058_2.jpg DSC_0029.jpg DSC_0011.jpg
     
  16. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    here's a Revelation I got from Moose (East Coast) that has been growing in filtered light for a year on the West Coast.
    onward through the fog...
     

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  17. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    As my engineering logic professor once said, "somesing is wong". How do we seperate the coasts and which form is from which coast?? :p Then add to the fact that with Phil and Keith having both forms on the west coast, this croton is bi-coastal. ;)
     
  18. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    So, is there any consensus on what to do with these crotons as far as the wiki goes?:confused:
     
  19. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    I think we should post both forms in the wiki under Revelation. We have a precedent with Sybil Griffin with 3 forms posted under the name.
     
  20. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Post the pics with captions and let the reader sort it out. We're talking crotons, a genetically unstable plant, not religious doctrine.
     
  21. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Hey, Scott, could you turn Keith's Raptures right side up? Thanks. Ana:)
     
  22. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Now I have the Deborah Harry Rapture song stuck in my head now.
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  23. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    I would like to add my opinion. I strongly suggest that this "west coast" Rapture is not and what I have been calling Red Foot for many years. I have what is to believe to be the correct Rapture. It has a much larger leaf, it originally came from Johnny and when I brought it over to Ft. Myers 3 years ago to the Glock's croton tour, Bob Alonzo and Mark Hooton totally agreed.

    I'm also pretty certain that I have read somewhere that B. Frank wrote, that Rheedii or Rheedi are both acceptable ways of spelling. I will double check.

    And Sturrock's Pink Veitchii is a valid name/plant.
     
  24. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    I try not to do a lot of identification based on looking at pictures on the screen. It's very hard at times as you all know. But, I think the pic's of Revelation all look to be the same, Keith's plant maybe a little in question but looks pretty close. It appears to have a lot of veining and no blotching. But again, without looking at it in person, it's really hard sometimes. Ana.....great job!!!
     
  25. Moose

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    Dang Phil - that sucka looks like it loves being on the West Coast ! Yourin's looks 10 times better than the Momma plant. Surrounding stuff grew, leaving her in to much shade. Your Revelation can be traced back to the guy who has all those fantastic cultivars for sale every Oct. It was one of my early acquisitions.

    Now - this is one of the unidentified Dr. Frank Brown crotons. Seems to have alot of resemblence to the "West Coast" Revelation Its a more vigorous cultivar than the "East Coast" Revelation :cool:
     

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  26. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Ron,

    That is NOT Revelation. You want to see a good pic of one, maybe Judy or possibly Jerry has one in his yard too. But Judy's plant is a very good representation.
     

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