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Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Sergey, Nov 26, 2011.

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  1. Sergey

    Sergey Active Member

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    Please, help me with ID for this variety
     

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  2. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    I don't know the ID, but that is a very beautiful croton....
    Is that one of your Malaysian plants?
     
  3. Sergey

    Sergey Active Member

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    I came across this variety in Thailand. But this very one I found long time ago in Botanical Gardens in Russia.
     
  4. Sergey

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    The plant in natural condition in Phuket. I think it might be the same variety.
     

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  5. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    It looks to be Chrysophyllum (pg. 19 of Crotons of the World) to me. My experience with this variety is that it is a bit finicky.
     
  6. Crotonologist

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    If it is Chryssophyllum, then we need to add it to the wiki once the ID is confirmed....
     
  7. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    I don't see any difference between this one, Chryssophyllum, and Robert Lavalois.
     
  8. Sergey

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    I’ve got “Robert Lavalois” – and these varieties are quite different if compared.

    “This one” has got longer hanging down leaves.

    R. Lavalois’ leaves are more “accurate”, hard.

    R.Lavalois easily sports to absolutely green in shadow, “this Chryssophyllum?”, on the contrary, often tends to become absolutely yellow (under electric light).
     

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  9. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Here is what I have as Chrysophyllum. It is under a shading canopy and only gets diffused sun light. The "yellows" are soft, pastel and creamy like. :)
     

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  10. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    This is what I have as Robert Lavalois. This croton gets much more sun and has a vigorous growth rate compared to the Chrysophyllum. The "yellows" are much sharper and robust, almost a yellow-orangish color.

    In the second photo, you can see that shaded portion of the plant keeps green leaves. The same experience that Sergey has with his plant. I usually cut these green branches off. If they remain, they will grow towards the light and color up. I cut them off because the older green leaves will remain green. I will have a long leggy green croton with only variegated leaves at the top.

    Jeff and I were checking out Mike Harris' Robert Lavalois when Mike hosted a garden tour last May. Mike has his under canopy in a somewhat shaded aspect. His plant had very nice yellows although shaded. We figured that since his plant had equal diffused light hitting it on all sides that it was retaining its variegation. Go figure? :confused:
     

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  11. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    This is what it is.
     
  12. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    deffinitly Chrysophyllum, very very different from RL
     
  13. Sergey

    Sergey Active Member

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    Ron, your Chrysophyllum would look great in the wiki
     
  14. keith

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    Sergey, Im amazed at how good your plants look, I think I will rip mine out of the ground and grow them in the garage under lights!!!
     
  15. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    I not know how. :(

     
  16. Sergey

    Sergey Active Member

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    Keith, you can also try lamp posts in the garden, if Florida lacks sunlight:)


    Now I see why there are still blank spots in the wiki…:)
     

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