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I.D. part 7

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Moose, Sep 13, 2009.

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  1. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Here are a couple more needing I.D. :confused: The first one the owner said it was growing already there when he purchased the house 37 years ago.

    Croton Fetus :eek:, Ron. :eek:
     

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  2. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Rheedii and Picturatum.
     
  3. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Thanks Ricky! there appears to be quite a nice variety close to home!
     
  4. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    I think the first one is Andreanum rather than Rheedii. Does it have orange as well as pink in it?
     
  5. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    The third photo has interrupted leaves. I'd say that one is Interruptum.

    The first photo is more pink than orange and strongly resembles Rheedii
     
  6. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    It is growing on the northwest corner of the property growing beneath a large Poincianna tree in pretty heavy filtered light. If you blow up the pictue you can find a limited amount of orange on some leaves only. I am new to crotons and know nothing about making an I.D. :(

    Ron. :)
     
  7. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Welcome Marie!! Glad to see you here.

    I would have to stronly go with Rheedi for the first one.
     
  8. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Thanks Jeff. This old specimen is growing three blocks from my home. A mature old school cultivar is nice to see! :rolleyes:

    Ron. :)
     
  9. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    I've seen some extreamly well grown Rheedii that would knock your socks off! When the pinks look PINK, this croton can be really nice.
     
  10. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Good eye Ray. I did not notice that interrupted leaf before. Enlarging the photo,it looks like that may be the only leaf like that. I will visit the plant and seach for more interrupted leaves and report back what I find.

    Best regards, :)

    Ron.
     
  11. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Ray - Doesn't Picturatum also have interrupted leaves? If not, then all the Picturatums in my garden must be Interruptums.
     
  12. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ricky, Picturatum is like a shorter leaf version of Majesticum but not interrupted.
     
  13. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Well... I just took a quick pass through the garden (the mosquitoes are out of control, again) and except for the one I brought back from Costa Rica, all of what I've been calling "Picturatum" have one or two interrupted leaves. Does that mean they are "Interruptums"? I would think to have a name like that, they'd be as interrupted as "Mother and Daughter" or "Appendiculatum." Is it possible that "Picturatum" can have a few interrupted leaves? Is it then possible that "Picturatum" and "Interruptum" are the same variety?
     
  14. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ricky,

    Interruptum does not regularly produce interrupted leaves like M & D or Appendiculatum. It was one of the first interrupted forms and thus got the name before other more consistent interrupted forms came along. Its leaves are more narrow and do not have the Picturatum-like blotching. If I'm not mistaken, Interruptum also has a few twisted leaves here and there.

    Ray
     
  15. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    I think for our meeting here, I'm going to get all new names for my Crotons.
     
  16. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ricky,

    Did you know the real Mother and Daughter has small pink spots?

    Ray
     
  17. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Ray - That's the one I've been calling Jonathon Schwartz. It was a sport off the M&D I found in Boynton Beach. Oy! This is getting more confusing by the hour.
     
  18. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Noone said this was going to be easy. The Croton Society should have an ID conference one weekend to clarify some confusion.
     
  19. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    The adult beverages may contribute to more confusion :eek:

    Ron. :eek:
     
  20. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    In our garden, they're a requirement!
     
  21. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    I abhor sober mosquitoes also! :eek: The crotons love this mosquito weather we have had as of late. :p

    Ron. :)
     
  22. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Moose,


    Must I remind you of the last croton tour and the "after tour" drinks involved? All the wonderful pictures? Moderation.....moderation. Or you'll never remember the new crotons and their names that you learned earlier on the tour. Lol!


    Jeff
     
  23. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    Ouch.............
     
  24. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    :eek:;)::rolleyes::eek:
     

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