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Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Kingdavid, Dec 31, 2012.

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  1. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    Need help with ID Bought the plant as a super petra in Tampa 4 years ago , Got froze back 2 years ago it came back looking like this , Leaves are up to 10 inches long, some leaves are covered with spots some dont ....Help me ......
     

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  2. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    Got This sport from my oldest Nestor .It always stays the same , it did sport off a shoot that was like the mother plant . But it died .Dont know the name of this plant please help ID David...Thanks
     

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  3. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    My grandmother got this plant when my dad was born , it has been transplanted a couple of times , finally ending up at my moms house for the last 49 years . I thought maybe it is a Turkey foot variety but im not sure , the largest leaves are only about 8 or 9 inches , Some of the tips are almost flourecent yellows or magenta red They glow kinda pastel . Thanks for some imput ... Mom says plant is 80 years old . ANTIQUE TURKEY..
     

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  4. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Wow,those are all wonderful :) can't help you with names on those
     
  5. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    #1 appears to be Norma based on the blotching and deep red color.
    #2 is Glen Roof, a common sport from Nestor.
    #3 best guess is Disraeli.
     
  6. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    I think this one may be Helen Edge. Initially Perry Edge put the name "Beyond Petra" on it and then later changed it to" Helen Edge".
     
  7. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Marie, the first one looks just like Helen Edge. The other two, no Glen Roof and no Snyder's Disraeli.
     
  8. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Ref: the last set of photos. This has got to be an old variety. Some 10+ years ago, the Croton Scoiety got a load of cuttings from a very old small tree in S. St. Pete. It looks similar to, but not quite like, Cranberry. Whatever it is, it is splendid semi-oak leaf variety.
     
  9. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    here's two pics taken today of it - more sun gives more pink.

    and Happy New Year to all the croton heads out there,
     

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  10. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    David - what a fabulous history to your cultivar. I really don't care what the name is - I want one! The plant looks like it could support several air layers. It is important that this plant is established in several spread out gardens. Hey if some tragedy happened to you plant, you would know where to go to get it re-established in your garden.

    Man - I really love the story behind this cultivar. :cool:
     
  11. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    The oak leaf looks like Norwood Beauty.
     
  12. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    Another quick grower, i have no idea what it is tho. leaves are large 9 to 10 inches .The plant is about 3 years old and is 6 foot even growing in a planter.. id help is appreciated . Sorry about so many Questions , have been growing for a while but had no clue what they where .
     

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  13. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    i will get some air layers in the next couple of months , soon as the weather settles down .
     
  14. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    air layers coming in a few months ....
     
  15. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    So it looks like on the #1 it is a Helen Edge #2 not sure ....... #3 Norwood beauty or Cranberry #4 dont know ... ? Thanks for the imput on these names Ill post some pictures of one i do know next ..David
     
  16. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Mr. King - it is often very difficult to make an ID with certainty from photos.

    Now if you were to host a garden tour - it would attract many a croton maven with "keen croton eyes". ;)

    Probably get some fun disagreements too.
     

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