Golden Glow or Johanna Coppenger ???

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Emmylou, May 24, 2014.

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  1. Emmylou

    Emmylou Active Member

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    We always thought it was Golden Glow, but have been told by a couple of people recently that it's really Johanna Coppenger. What do you think? Marnie

    Golden Glow 1.jpg Golden Glow 3.jpg
     
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  2. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Looks like JC to me due to the presence of a band of yellow (for now) around the central midrib; GG has the mid rib without any band of color along it.
     
  3. Emmylou

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    Thank you Phil. I'm still a little confused because the picture in Dr. Brown's book (Page 108) shows GG with a yellow mid rib. Am I missing something? Marnie
     
  4. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Take a look at the respective pics in the Wiki - much better and more of them than the book.
     
  5. Emmylou

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    You are so right. The photo of JC by Mike Harris looks just like mine. Thanks so much. Don't know why I didn't go there first. I'm still pretty new at this, but I'm learning. Thanks again, Marnie
     
  6. Moose

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    Golden Glow and Johanna Coppinger are so similar, it would be very hard to distinguish from a distance. I have what was reportedly Golden Glow. Now over time I've got the band running down the mid-rib. Marnie and I were discussing this characyeristic this evening. When all is said and done, it really does not matter - both are beautiful whatever they are called.

    Onward through the fog ...
     
  7. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Yes, Ron, that beautiful croton you gave me looks like a gorgeous Johanna Coppinger to me. Which is what I was hoping for!
     
  8. Moose

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    Anna - that plant came from a huge croton at an old home in Coral Gables. There were two different sports on it, One looked like Reliant (Reliance), the other was yellow. The main plant was thought to be Golden Glow. I made a mess of air layers, the house was abandoned - no one to ask permission. Of all the "Golden Glow" air layers made, I kept the one that had the most intense colors. Your plant is an air layer of the plant I kept.

    Golden Glow, Johanna Coppinger & Reliant (reliance?) supposedly all came from the same batch of seeds. They are all closely related. All I can tell you is that big old momma plant was doing a lot of morphing.
     
  9. kwtimo

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    Here's what I got from Ron as Golden Glow CAM00478.jpg CAM00479.jpg CAM00480.jpg CAM00481.jpg
     
  10. kwtimo

    kwtimo Well-Known Member

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    Here's what I got as Johanna Coppinger from Jerry, and one pic of both plants side by side CAM00483.jpg CAM00484.jpg CAM00485.jpg CAM00487.jpg
     
  11. Emmylou

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    Thanks for your pictures Tim. I think the general concensus is that we have a beautiful Johanna Coppenger. (I love them both so would be happy either way.) It's such a bright and lively plant. Thanks again, Marnie
     

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