Florence Black? Mmmmmm

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by palmisland, May 29, 2012.

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  1. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    I've had this one about a year. The closest ID I cloud come up with is Florence Black, shown on page 35 of the "book", although mine has a little more red. Any other ideas?Am I right?:confused:
     

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  2. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    How big are those leaves? They look very much like some Col Bob Bullock leaves - which can be highly variable depending on light conditions.
     
  3. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    Here you go Phil. It's in much better light (planted last week), so it should color up a little better.
     

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  4. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Based on leaf size and that red vein, I'd say Col Bob B. Here's some pics taken today of some 'Florence Black looking leaves' on a Col Bob B; then look at some of the other colorfull leaves and then at the air layer just removed from the same plant. Leaves are 9"+ long plus petiole.

    Has anyone ever seen a Florence Black other than the pic in the book??????????????
     

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  5. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Phil, where's the air layer going? I'll be over to pick up America anyway..........
     
  6. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    Great.........97 views & Phil (thanks Phil) the only one with a suggestion & Ray helping himself. Why do I bother?
     
  7. Rags

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    Now why do I get the feeling that this plant will do so well in Trinidad.......
     
  8. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Here's the skinny.....

    Never owned a plant myself, nor ever seeing one either. The only thing I can bring to the table is, I talked to Bob Alonzo at the Croton Tour back in December 2010 at the Glock's house. And he told me that the plant is probably, or most likely gone, it hasen't been seen in years. He told me that he remembered it being such a poor growing variety and that's why it never caught on and distributed.

    Randy, I think it's a long shot....
     
  9. Rags

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    Ok so now I certainly need a copy of that book... in in digital E-read format.
     
  10. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Phil - what is it about these three Col Bob Bullocks that makes them resemble Randy's plant? I've seen Randy's Croton up close and personal and if it's a Col Bob Bullock, all three of these are something else.
     

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  11. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ricky, your plants look more like Cap'n Gilbert Cutler. Get your military officials straight :cool:.

    Easy there Randy. I've never seen Florence Black so can't comment. Like Jeff implied, it's probably extinct unless some unknowing person has it growing in their yard. That individual probably doesn't know it and more than likely doesn't care. In that situation, the plant might as well be lost.
     
  12. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    I agree, Ricky, your plants look like Capt. Gilbert Cutler. At least the second and third pic.
     
  13. Phil Stager

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    WHOOOOOOOOOOPPs, one of those posts when I think that 2 +2 =4, say 3, and write down 5. Col. Gilbert Cutler it is - forget any mention of Col Bob B. Sorry for the confusion.
    Col Gilbert Cutler - the large leaf one in your pics and mine, is one highly variable plant when it comes to leaf color.
     
  14. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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