Crotons in Russia

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Sergey, May 5, 2010.

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  1. Sergey

    Sergey Active Member

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    Hi, I am Sergey from Russia. I am fond of crotons very much. I got the first crotons about 10 years ago, now I have about 200 varieties in my collection, but still ids for many of them are required. Hope for your help. Soon I’ll post some codiaeums’ photos for identification.

    Now some general pictures of my collection.
     
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    Hi Sergey,

    I can't help you with the IDs, but I can compliment you on doing a great job of growing crotons where I would have never expected them growing. They look so well grown too.
     
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  8. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Sergey,


    You certainly have an impressive collection. They appear to really like the grow lights overhead. Can I ask you, if your living in Russia, I'm assuming your buying all these over the internet? Or do travel alot and bring plants back? I notice some of the Thai Hybrids, those with the rounder leaves.

    This is very interesting and I'm sure I can speak for others, as to how you got started , and are you still adding new ones and what happens to them as they get too big? I look forward in hearing back from you, very interesting! Thanks,


    Jeff
     
  9. Sergey

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    Thank you.

    I met crotons 10 years ago. They were - Excellent, Norma, Gold Sun, Pinocchio – the varieties imported to Russia from Netherlands. At first I even thought that all of them were different plants. I was very surprised when I got to know that they were only varieties of the same plant – codiaeum variegatum.

    I was impressed by color diversity and foliage forms. Since that time – crotons became my obsession. Wherever I travel –I try to get new varieties for my collection.

    Firstly I bought all the varieties from Netherlands which were offered in local shops. The next were the crotons which grew in the greenhouse collections of botanic gardens in Russia. Several very interesting varieties were brought by my friends from their travel to Papua New Guinea. And at last came Thai crotons – I like travelling to Thailand as I can always bring new varieties from their nurseries. Moreover in Thailand I found some famous old American crotons.

    As my collection increased I had to diminish plants’ size. So a miniature multilevel croton gardens appeared… on the shelves under electric light. And my crotons turned into dwarf plants. Thai crotons are easiest to grow, American varieties and others on the contrary grow very quickly and they growth should always be controlled.

    And I’d like to add that I am very happy that this forum appeared and I can join the society of croton lovers. This winter I worried about all people living in Florida who had they collection damaged. Hope that it will never stop real croton lovers from growing these wonderful plants.
     
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    Sergey:

    Thank-you so much for sharing your introduction into the world of crotons. I am sure many of us Floridians were wondering about that. I found it very interesting and can more appreciate my growing condition here in south Florida. We are gradually recovering from the recent cold weather and are regaining interest in our gardens. Actually, crotons didn't do as badly as some of our other plants. However, I am still upset over losing many crotons that didn't have well established root systems. I am going to have to stop dwelling on the ones that I lost and accentuate the positive!

    Thanks again...
     
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    Sergy,
    Crotons in RUSSIA? Tell me you don't live in Siberia?!
    Welcome to the forum of croton madness!

    Loved your entry and glad you are now a part of those corresponding about this incredible family of plants.

    Show us more! Botanical gardens of Russia? Is there a tropical house there that encompasses tropical plants?

    We are intrigued!
     
  14. irene_kingsley

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    haha! good collection sergy. Impressive! i have over 200 varieties too. Hope to share with you soon. I nede to upload some pics realllll soon~~~~!!
     
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    Hope that such cold winter won't repeat anymore. Nevertheless now you have an experience and can help your plants to cope with low temperature.
     
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    Thank you. Your words encourage me to write further about crotons.
     
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    Thank you, Rick. I'll try to find my pictures from the Botanic Gardens. Unfortunately, when I began to collect crotons, I was more interested in cuttings than photos. I promise that next time I will certainly take new pictures to share with you here.
     
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    :) really we should share and maybe exchange? Together we'll have 400 varieties :)
    I like new varieties and crotons which I get from seeds. When I am in Singapore I promise to bring you something special with “no one can guess IDs” for your collection.
     
  19. Crazy for Crotons

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    Sergey,

    Your passion and collection are both very impressive. I congratulate you on doing such a fantastic job growing these gorgeous plants. Please post some close up photos of individual specimens.

    Thank you,

    Ray
     
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    OMG!!! OKAY~~!! I am so excited already! i thought i live in singapore and can nv get to exchange specimens with members of ICS already. WOAH! a great piece of news!!! whahahaha!=)
     
  21. Sergey

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    Hi everyone! Here are some old pictures of my crotons with unknown or doubtful IDs. Their appearance can differ from the same varieties grown under natural light. Also such difference can be a result of their small size.

    #1 – ID? A cutting brought from Moscow Botanical Garden. #2 – the same plant grown under electrical light

    #3 - ? I bought this variety in Bangkok together with Mona Lisa, Rudy Buchman, Johanna Coppinger, Red King and one more variety with huge leaves. All of them were sold as novelties :)

    #4 – ? It was sold as “Europe”. The variety from Thailand with contrast brown –yellow leaves. Young leaves contain non-chlorophyll parts with lighter coloration. I think that I can be a sport from Bravo, as I have one plant of this variety regressing to Bravo.
     

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    #5, 6 Thai hybrid – ID is required

    #7 - ? This variety is called “Shrimp” in Indonesia

    #8 - Shrimp in bloom:)
     

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    #9- ? Looks very much like “Leaf of Gold” in B. Frank Brown’s “A Codiaeum Encyclopedia”

    #10 - ? The plant hasn’t come to its natural shape yet, when I bought it the foliage was round

    #11 – ID? Maybe “The Queen of Siam”

    #12 - ? I think that it may be “Paya Kanchananabury” as in B. Frank Brown’s “A Codiaeum Encyclopedia”
     

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    #13 -?

    #14-?

    #15, 16 -?
     

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    #17 -?

    #18 -?

    #19, 20 -?
     

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    #21, 22, 23 -? Nirvana?

    #24-?
     

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    #25 -?

    #26 -?

    #27 - ? This variety is “Pagoda” in Indonesia.

    #28 – “Visantaravee” in B. Frank Brown’s “A Codiaeum Encyclopedia”
     

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    #29 –“The King of Siam”

    #30 -? A mature plant has more round shape leaves. In Indonesia it is known as “Coins”

    #31 -?

    #32 -? It’ll have round leaves when it grows up
     

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    #33 -? A mature plant will have round leaves. Always black, never colored

    #34, 35 – “Red India”

    #36 - ?
     

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  30. Jerry@TreeZoo

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    Great collection and excellent photography!
     
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    C30 and C33 looks really very very nice! lol!!! Others looks just fantastic...
     
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    Thank you! Some new pictures of Thai hybrids
     

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    #1 - 3 was sold among Thai hybrids. ID's suggestions will be helpful.
     

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    Some serious Thai hybrids there that are not available here in the States. ;)
     
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    Thanks. I see that there are not very many Thai hybrids in Palmpedia. I hope that these pictures can be interesting to croton lovers.
    There are classical varieties in my collection but the majority of them need natural light to show their colors and varieties’ features. I’ll upload their pictures later for identification.
     
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    #1, 2 Ram’s Horn – the result of high humidity and electric light
    #3, 4 – Unknown ID? I’m posting a picture of this variety with better quality once again
     

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    #5 – Red India, one of my favorite varieties. It was brought to Thailand from India and hybridized with local variety. The result was the first hybrid with round leaves which became the ancestor of the majority of Thai hybrids.

    #6 – it has grown up a little bit with new leaves tended to become more and more round

    #7, 8 – unknown ID?
     

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