Crossroad & Mary Queen of Scotts.Do they still exist??

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  1. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    In looking in the book they both caught my eye
     
  2. Moose

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    Crossroad ? In which book ? :confused: I do not recall this being in Crotons of the World. Actually I do not recall ever hearing about it either. :confused:

    Hey, old timers - any help ? :)
     
  3. Bullwinkle

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    Crossroad Page 18,it was incorrectly listed as unnamed hybrid

     
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    Crossroad is a sport on stoplight if I am correct
     
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    New to me too. I heard of MQ of Scotts, but never have seen one.
     
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    The photo under the Duncan Macaw on page 18 ? That is very interesting Mike. Thank you for pointing it out. :)

    And a possible sport from a Stoplight croton.net recalls. I would have never had guessed that. You learn something new about these majestic plants all the time. :)

    I wonder if Keith has one, he has about one of everthing else. ;)

     
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    here are a couple of pics
     

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  8. Bullwinkle

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    Yes,that is what I understand,it was listed in my book as a "verified" correction.

     
  9. Bullwinkle

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    See list of probable corrections,this was copied from another thread on this site

    Page Location Incorrect Name **Correct Name

    11 - UR - * - Ralph Davis Hybrid, **Fred Sanders
    14 - LL - * - Davis #2, **Petra
    18 - UR - * - Hybrid in ... Garden, **White Polychrome
    18 - LR - * - Unnamed hybrid, **Crossroad – sport from Stoplight
    19 - LL - * - Sport on John Bender, **Juliet Reasoner
    19 - LR - * - Yellow Van Buren, **unknown
    27 - LL - * - Daisy Ortegas, **William Craig
    38 - LL - * - Picturatum, **Majesticum
    54 - LR - * - Dreer #7, **Rapture
    55 - LL - * - Ralph Davis Hybrid, **Jungle Queen
    59 - UL - * - Majesticum, **Picturatum
    74 - LL - * - Unnamed hybrid...Place, **Rosie O’Grady (see photo on p54)
    75 - UL - * - General Lawrence, **Mons Florin
    75 - LL - * - Mons Florin, **General Lawrence
    75 - MR - * - ... Harvest Moon, ** General Lawrence
    79 - LL - * - Lady Bird Johnson, **Charles Rutherford (see p 31)
    82 - LR - * - Red Arrow, **Davis Compacta
    86 - ML - * - Ralph Davis Hybrid, **Michaelangelo
    103 - UL - * - McKenzie King, **Unknown
    103 - UR - * - Barbara Bush, **Evening Embers
    107 - LL - * - Rainbow, **Catherine Gephardt
    110 - UL - * - Van Buren seedling , **Super California
    110 - ML - * - Hybrid in...Garden, **Michaelangelo (see p 86 ML)
    110 - UR - * - Baron Rothschild, **Sandborne Jr.
    110 - LR - * - Unnamed Hybrid, **Madame Fernand Kohl
    120 - UL - * - Michaelangelo, **unknown
    120 - UR - * - Henry VIII, **Evening Embers
    120 - LR - * - Nancy Reagan, **McKenzie King
     
  10. Jeff Searle

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    Well, I disagree on at least two of these. ( I know, here we go again).

    The first, page 18-UR, can't be a White Polychrome, Polychrome has shoulders and the croton in the picture clearly dosen't. It's a White Gloriosa, straight out of the Hayward's Garden.

    And the second, page 54-LR, I still believe to be the correct Dreer #7. I have a Rapture and took it to the Glock's meeting this past December where Bob A. and Mark H. positively identified it as such. Their a little close, but side by side, their two worlds away.
     
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    I also just found another one to be highly questionable.

    In the correction list, page 18-LR, it says it should be Crossroads, a sport from Stoplight. That's all fine, and looking at the above picture that Bud posted, it does look like it has Stoplight written all over it. BUT, his picture and the picture on page 18, are two totally different looking plants. At least to me. What do others think?
     
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    The picture posted by Bud looks like a Stoplight that I have that just never gets the good colors of Stoplight that it once had.
     
  13. Bullwinkle

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    I'm too new to this to have a meaningfull opinion:) ."Crossroads" is a great looking croton whatever it is.Has anyone been able to verify this name??Does anyone have a current pic of Mary Queen of Scots??
    Buds croton does not look like the croton on page 18.

     
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    The photo I posted is absolutely a sport from a stoplight and yes it is in a bad spot and has been thru several cold winters in western palm beach.The sport was air layered from a 7 foot stoplight I removed from someones yard.
     
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    Hi Bud,

    Are you propagating this one at all to get more of it out there? We would hate to see it lost, trades are always welcomed w/ many of us.
     
  16. Moose

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    When you think about it, Crossroad was a brillant naming of a sport from Stoplight. After all, Stoplights are found at Crossroads. :cool:

    Mike - Mary Queen of Scots may very well be a "lost" cultivar. I am sure it is growing unknowingly in some garden. Looking into old yards needs to continue as old varieties are being removed by new owners all the time. :(
     
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    I've added these comments to the UNOFFICIAL CORRECTION LIST in the Wiki....
    http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/UNOFFICIAL_CORRECTION_LIST_TO_FRANK_BROWN'S_BOOK
     

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