Cover Girl?

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Moose, Jan 1, 2012.

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  1. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    This croton was given to me as Cover Girl. It was my understanding that there is a "standard" and a "large" leaf form. It was assumed that this one was the large leaved version.

    The confusing part is that I saw a croton at Marie Nock's place that looked exactly like this identified as Columbia. That is not to be confused with the simular named but different plant Columbiana. :confused:

    Hopefully Marie will post a photo of her croton for comparison purposes. :)

    Photo was taken this morning. Opinions are certainly encouraged on this one. ;)
     

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  2. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Ron,

    When I came across this plant growing in Parrot Jungle, it was wrongly tagged as Cover Girl by Johhny S. and Bob A. Fast forward two years, and I'm now 100% convinced that it IS NOT a Cover Girl and calling it Columbia as well. It's certainly a well deserved plant and is not very common, but it's NOT Cover Girl. I'm hoping to have a true C.G. next summer.
     
  3. Bullwinkle

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    Looks exactly like my Columbia,This one has been a a slow to moderate grower for me.Yours has colored up nicely,mine is showing potential but it is not quite there.
     
  4. Crotonologist

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    Very beautiful, whatever it is...
     
  5. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    I'd swear that's Petra grown in the shade. Take a look at the photos on page 111 of The Book or just drive around the neighborhood and look for a bunch of Petra grown in the shade. There's a lot more red and the color evens out, more uniform over the leaf. They also elongate, just a tiny bit.
     
  6. Bullwinkle

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    Pics are a little deceiving,definitely not a Petra.Even though I have seen Petra with red but not quite like this one.


     
  7. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Ricky,

    It's one of those plants that you have to see side by side next to a Petra. It's 100% a different plant.
     
  8. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    So now we have two crotons named after Space Shuttles?? I've never even heard of Columbia. Can someone please provide some info on this name? Of course, I'm a skeptic without some details.
     
  9. Crotonologist

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    per the wiki:

    "Henry Coppinger hybrid. REF: Brown, B. Frank 1995 Crotons of the World p.55."
     
  10. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Peyton,

    Were talking about two different crotons. Coumbia ( no picture in either book ) and Columbiana on page 55.
     
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  12. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Ray, I recall reading a reference to this cultivar. For the life of me I cannot remember where. Something tells me that we may find it in past Croton Society Newsletter. I know that Judy Glock keeps all the newsletters. Keith probably has the complete archives of the newsletters. ;)

    Perhaps they would be kind enough to check for us and let us know what they found out? :eek:
     
  13. Moose

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    Ricky - my experience with Petra in heavy shade is that the leaves actually get smaller. I had a heavily shaded area that was devoid of color so I transplanted two Petras there. They get a small dappling of sun at this time of year. As the sun heads towards the northern hemisphere, they will be return to complete shade. I did this as it was reported that AFD developed the Petra to retain color in low light. Basically for when brought inside in the Winter for the European market.
     

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  14. Moose

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    Columbia looking even better 4 months later. Mild winter sure did help! :)
     

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  15. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Wow - this is one sweet looking croton. Sorry for the hazy photo. :( Originally given to me by Jeff Searle as Cover Girl it was later determined to be Columbia. Don't really care what name it has, I love its color patterns.

    Gave my first air layer of it to Phil, he has always been so generous to me. Where I took the air layer, it is already generating new leaves. I'm gonna make another air layer so it can get bushier. I visit this croton at least every other day during my sauntering. :eek:

    Hey Phil - how is your air layer doing? :confused:
     

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