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Could this be The Swan ?

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Moose, May 24, 2011.

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  1. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Possible Swan.jpg Possible Swan2.jpg Possible Swan3.jpg Went to vote in a Miami-Dade County special election this morning at 7:30 am at an old Church located in Coral Gables. Leaving I noticed this croton. I am unsure as to the identification of this cultivar. The leaves I guestimate are about 10 - 12 inches long. It appears that this plant gets no fertilizer or supplemental irrigation. Could this be The Swan ? :confused:

    Unfortunately my "croton eye" is restricted generally to those cultivars found at the Moose Ranch. The Moose would appreciate your help. :eek:

    Please let me know what you think. :)
     
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  2. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Possible Swan4.jpg Possible Swan5.jpg Here are a couple of more shots as an aid for identification purposes. If you enlarge the second photo here, you can see that this plant has a substantial trunk and probably been growing in this location for a decent period of time.

    Of course I had to go back home and retrieve a camera. I don't usually find anything interesting when I carry it with me. :p

    Please help the Moose with an ID. :cool:
     
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  3. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    That's C.I. Craigin.
     
  4. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    There we two of these C.I. Cragin at the recent auction.
     
  5. Jeff Searle

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    I agree with the C.I.
     
  6. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    CI Craigin.jpg CI Craigin2.jpg CI Craigin3.jpg Then this looks to be C.I. Craigin as well ? Found this growing at a house in the neighborhood. It is a eastern foundation planting. The leaves are kinda out of color. Stems are thin and stretched. It appears that this croton has gone unloved for years. No fertilizer, organic material or non naturally occuring water for ages. :(

    Many people in old neighborhoods do not comprehend what wonderful plants they have inherited. With some composed cow manure, fertilizer for acid loving plants and a nice layer of mulch coupled with some supplemental irrigation, this croton could thrive. ;)



    I had to shoot this from a distance and over a fence. Sorry about the fuzzy pictures. :eek:
     
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  7. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    The Swan is in Frank Browns encylopedia (p.6) . The picture in the book is not good. With that being said what is the difference in the appearance of the two? Here is my C.I.C.
     

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  8. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    and here is the WIKI picture The Swan (L) and my C.I.Craigin (R).
     

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  9. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Scott - That's my C.I. Craigin. I thought it was The Swan but it was correctly identified by several folks at both Croton meetings here.
     
  10. ScotTi

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    Thanks again Ricky. :)
     
  11. Moose

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    Update: I ended up getting an air layer from the plant in the first post. It is happy and in the ground now. :)

    As to the original plant, its still there although sadly has been severly hacked up by the unknowing and uniformed grounds crew. :(
     
  12. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Here it is. My other air layer went to Ray. Wonder how that one is doing? It had better color than this one.
     
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  13. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Update - this C.I. Craigin was relocated since its last photo. Was suffering a bit but lots of watering has helped it to rebound. I had two air layers, one I gave to Ray. I kept the one that had less remarkable variegation, did C I Craigin.jpg not seem to matter. Looking pretty happy and soon to be a specimen plant.
     
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