Could this be a Cardinal

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  1. Rags

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    No. That's Pride of Winter Haven. Cardinal has no orange, pink, or yellow. It goes from a new green leaf with a red midvein, directly to red.
     
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    Pride of Winterhaven , wide leaf form; narrow leaf form is about 1/2 as wide. Holds up well in full sun too.
     
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    Here's a pic from the Croton Encyclopedia
     

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    Now here's an interesting sport on the plant
     

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    After snooping around a bit I came across this plant...... so could this one be a cardinal????
     

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    Looks like another Pride of Winterhaven in rough shape and in shade.
     
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    Ok.... but that wiki photo is surely misleading..
    Can anyone with a Cardinal please post a picture.

    Thanks
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    Mine melted in the first of our two cold winters several years ago, but it was a cutting from Jesse Durko's Cardinal. There's a photo of that plant on page 42 of The Book. Jeff was selling a plant that he had marked Cardinal a couple years ago. I bought two of them but, as it turned out, neither one was Cardinal nor are they Pride of Winter Haven, although they look very similar.
     
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    My book will touchdown in Trinidad on the 18th July via Fairchild and UPS.......so I'll surely have a look then......

    Thanks Guys
     
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    Here's the plant I got from Jeff in the first three pictures. Notice how the new growth comes out with a red midvein. Also look at the size of the mature leaves. All of them are well over a foot long, not including the petiole. Next are two shots of Pride of Winter Haven. The midvein starts out white and eventually becomes red. The leaves are rarely over 10" long. Both of them get a few hours of direct sun, the first one in the late afternoon - setting sun, and the other midday, but only at this time of the year. The unknown is in shade most of the day. Dappled sun for a few hours at midday, which may account for the size of the leaves but not the prominent red midvein.
     

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    Here's the photo from The Book.
     

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    Pics 1,2 & 3 are similar to the one from the Wiki
     
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    Thanks for the scan........ now it makes some sense... (That pic from Jesse Durko should be the one in the Wiki)
     
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    The picture in the Wiki that's marked Cardinal is Pride of Winter Haven. Cardinal has nothing but red, black, and green. No yellow, no orange, no pink.
     
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    ..and here's two pics of the same plant; purchased at a Seare sale a year or two ago. Growing partial shade; not the most exciting corton in the yard....
     

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