COSTA RICA CROTON WANDERINGS - GLORIOSA SUPERBA

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by donroberth, Jul 31, 2016.

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  1. donroberth

    donroberth Well-Known Member

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    When I was putting the GLORIOSA SUPERBA pictorial together I became aware there existed a lot of confusion with three varieties… Excellent, Gloriosa Superba and Inca, not to mention Corot. I have no problem with Inca or Corot because I’ve have never seen them “in person” therefore, no problem LOL :rolleyes:. But, I do run into the first two quite often. Please see photos 01 and 02, Gloriosa Superba in contrast with Excellent in full sun for comparison purposes. Hope they help.


    Photographs 03 thru 10 are what I consider to be Gloriosa Superba in Costa Rica in both sunny locations vs shady conditions and how these settings affect the leaf’s coloring. This Croton naming game is often times totally baffling for me o_O!
     
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  2. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmm... after looking at the pictures in the Wiki, the differences are subtle at best, i.e., Gloriosa Superba seems to have side lobes that area bit less pointy than Excellent. I know this is not much to go on; the sample is too small for any valid statistical analysis. Maybe someone else can see some more obvious difference.
     
  3. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    The Gloriosa Superba has a much larger leaf when mature . My largest one is 14 inches . Another thing i noticed was the Gloriosa S does not branch as much as the Excellent . Needs a lot of pinching to get 4 or 5 heads
     
  4. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    I can't notice any differences to hang my hat on. Wish I could.
     
  5. kurt decker

    kurt decker Well-Known Member

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    Corot and inca are distinct, easily identifiable plants, not really close to what you have here. The problem with excellent and gloriosa superba, is that they are trade names, and could have been conjured up out of thin air at anytime by someone making a pricelist.
     
  6. donroberth

    donroberth Well-Known Member

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    First of all… a big thank you for the kind remarks and observations that you folks have posted, re: two photos (Gloriosa Superba vs. Excellent) which I included with the Gloriosa Superba pictorial.

    Kingdavid, I agree that Gloriosa Superba’s leaves are larger than Excellent and thanks for the hint about “pinching” the Gloriosa Superba… hope she doesn’t mind!

    Hello Phil, Anna and Curt, Perhaps it’s my fault because the selection of the two photos I attached resulted smaller than expected after being posted, consequently, difficult to compare. I have gone back to my photo files and “dug- up” other photos that we hope are more representative and better depict the subtle differences between the two varieties :).
     
  7. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Robert, I just don't know. I haven't purchased a croton by either name, so I don't have any experience with this. Waiting for someone who has more.
     
  8. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    This has been a topic of discussion as long as I have been on this page. J. Bender corrected me on Excellent and I got a G. Superbum from Jeff at one of the sales. Top Excellent. Bottom Superbum. At this time I might be right with this I.D. image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  9. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    Both plants can show a lot more color with very bright orange and yellow.
     
  10. donroberth

    donroberth Well-Known Member

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    Hi "Native Son"... thanks for contributing your RE: Subject Photos to the above conversation. It certainly adds a little more depth to the post and I agree that sunlight helps to promote more color with these cultivars. :)
     
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