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Correct Names ?

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by ScotTi, Oct 20, 2009.

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  1. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    New finds for me 1) Sun Blade 2) Sloppy Painter 3) Harvest moon, are these correct names?
     

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    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    almost forgot Karen...
     

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  3. Moose

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    Scott - Sloppy Painter or Sloppy Paint are both improper names for Eleanor Roosevelt. I got mine from a Nursery calling it Sloppy Paint also. In another thread this cultivar was discussed. :)
     
  4. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Scott,

    Unfortunately, I think their all mislabled.

    1) Multicolor
    2) Eleanor Roosevelt
    3) General Paget
    4) Van Buren (?)
     
  5. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Jeff you just love the sloppy painter reference. #4 looks like Elaine or maybe AFD#5 to me.
     
  6. ScotTi

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    The underside of the leaves have a redish color. The lady at the nursery said it was a sport from Petra and it was being called Harvest Moon. I was thinking this may be Yellow Petra.
     

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    This is Mrs. Iceton correct ?
     

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  8. Moose

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    Scott - it looks like it to me. Mine was sold to me as Icetone. Many nurseries sell these plants with erroneous names and that causes all the confusion. I think alot of nurseries obtain cuttings and go by the name they were told or just make one up. Then they propogate them, sell them to customers with the improper name and on it goes..... :(
     
  9. Moose

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    Ray - Jeff calmly overlooked it without a comment. Why are you trying to stir him up when you know how much he dislikes Eleanor Roosevelt being called Sloppy Painter? :p
     
  10. Moose

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    Scott - It is not Yellow Petra, it does not have the Petra leaf shape. :(
     
  11. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    It looks like General Paget and Mrs. Iceton to me.
     
  12. ScotTi

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    Thanks guys! Now if we can get some agreement on #4, I can get the correct name on it. She had a couple more I have not seen before. One looked like a Dreadlocks, but the leaves were solid green with a red vein down the middle. The other looked like Gold Dust to me with very very few gold spots I belived she called it Salt & Pepper. I have got a lot to learn yet.
     
  13. ScotTi

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    up close with # 4....
     

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  14. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Is it Mrs Iceton? or Icetone?
     
  15. fawnridge

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    #4 is "Van Buren" and I agree with all the other IDs.
     
  16. Sihara

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    Just wanted to add that, awhile back, one of the big boxes had a bunch of AFD 5s (Fantasy) that they'd labeled Karen.

    And it didn't help that a couple of nurseries insisted on labeling their Eleanor Roosevelts as Sloppy Painter, but Dolins had the real SP, and had their ERs labeled correctly.
     

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