Compte de Castelaine

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  1. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    A pretty croton which at the moment is showing lots of good color. Not much of this around it seems, better start propagating this one next spring.
     

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  2. Crotonologist

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  3. Moose

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    Actually I think it has exceptional coloring Jeff! ;)

    Peyton - thanks for posting photo in the wiki/index. :eek:

    Ron. :)
     
  4. Moose

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    Curious Jeff - is this getting an airlayer? ;)
     
  5. Jeff Searle

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    :) Deffinitely not this summer. You can't tell by the picture, but the main stem is only about 2-3' tall with a couple of other much smaller heads. I will desperately try to get a cutting or two off of it this summer.
    Jeff
     
  6. Moose

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    Jeff - did a couple of cuttings make it to the mist house ? :)

    Is this a slow grower ? :confused:
     
  7. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    It's been a good grower here.
     
  8. Marie Nock

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    Ray,
    I'll root a Princess Eugenia for you if you'll root a Compte de Castelaine for me. Deal?
    Marie
     
  9. koki

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    If Ray can't, I will.
     
  10. Crazy for Crotons

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    Deal Marie but it sounds as if Toby wants one too.
     
  11. Marie Nock

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    Ray can, but if you still would like to trade, I'll root one for you too.
     
  12. putu enjula

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    Wow that's really cool Jeff!
     
  13. Moose

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    :confused:
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  14. Moose

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    Ray and/or Toby - any chance a rooted cutting of Compte de Castelaine is going to show up at the Croton Tour tomorrow? :confused: Don't seem to be many on this side of the State. :(
     
  15. koki

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    I may be confused on this one, it looks a lot like one of the Madam Butterflies.
     
  16. Crazy for Crotons

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    Madam has more pink whereas CC has more orange.
     
  17. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Yes, very distinct in looks when side by side.
     
  18. koki

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    But to add to the confusion, from what I understand, there are two distinct versions of Madam Butterfly. One splotchy pink and one with more defined color variation, more like CC. Does this make sense to anyone?
     
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    I think you are correct.I have the one with splotchy pink



     
  20. Jeff Searle

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    But I think w/ this variety, it's all one plant at the end of the day.
     
  21. koki

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    mmebutterfly3.jpg mmebutterfly2.jpg mmebutterfly.jpg

    Is this Madam Butterfly or Compte de Castelaine? I have another Madam Butterfly, the splotchy pink style, I'll take a pic soon.
     
  22. Phil Stager

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    Toby - those in the pics looks like Mdme. Butterfly. I've got a Compte de C in a pot and will lltake some side-by-side pics tomorrow. CdeC has a much deeper red, a stiffer and slightly larger leaf form.
     
  23. Crazy for Crotons

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    Toby,

    There is a more speckled, inferior clone of Madam Butterfly. Back before we knew better, we thought it was Red Quill.

    Ray
     
  24. Phil Stager

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    DSCN3558.jpg DSCN3557.jpg DSCN3556.jpg Third pic is a pot of CdeC in front of a Madame Butterfly; second is CdeC leaf; first is Mdm. Butterfly leaves. Six inch ruler in pics for scale. CdeC leaves are longer and stiffer than MB.
     
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  25. Sergey

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    I think the variety below is Compte de Castelaine. It has got leaves aprox. twice larger than Madam Butterfly’s.
     

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  26. Moose

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    What about me? :(
     
  27. Jeff Searle

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    This is one of those crotons that can have nice form, or good color patterns, and then some you will see that have poor markings.

    Ron.....I could check to see if I rooted one, maybe for a trade?
     

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