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Can anyone ID this one for me?

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by junglegal, May 7, 2010.

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  1. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    I picked this one up recently. The seller had no idea of an ID and I'm still terrible with crotons. Thanks in advance!
     

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  2. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Based on the older leaves and the shape of the newer ones, I would say this is President Reagan. All of mine have the same leaf shape after the cold. The trident-shaped leaves have lost their shoulders.
     

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  3. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Thanks Ricky!
     
  4. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    I think its "irresistible" based on the older leaves
     
  5. Plant Nut

    Plant Nut Active Member

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    I think it is Irresistible. In fact, I'm almost positive it is.
     
  6. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    As they are similar in looks sometimes, I would have to agree with Rob. The leaves look to "cut" to be President Reagan.
     
  7. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Thanks for the help guys! :D This one has grown really fast in the 4-5wks I've had it!
     
  8. irene_kingsley

    irene_kingsley Active Member

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    I tink this is President Reagan. My Irresistible has deeper leave lopes. Even so for the young leave. heee!
     
  9. Borgy230

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    Thats deffinityl Irresistable, 100%
     
  10. Plant Nut

    Plant Nut Active Member

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    You are right Borgy; it is definitely Irresistible! You know your crotons man! End of controversy?
     
  11. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    OK, can we put this one to bed based on the updated pic? I just updated the WIKI with the other ID'd President Reagans from Jeff Searle and Marie Nock and I still can't be sure on this one!!

    Plant in question is front and center, a couple stop light leaves got in the way on the upper left. Plant gets limited mid morning sun and very filtered afternoon.
     

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  12. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    It has some resemblance to Marie Nock's second leaf version of Sybil Griffin. Hopefully she'll see this and chime in.
     
  13. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Thanks Ray, I've PM'd her asking her to chime in.
     
  14. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Bren,
    It's similar but I don't think it's the same. Has it colored up since you took the picture? Seeing it with color might help with the ID. It's a beauty - sorry I don't know it.
    Marie
     
  15. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Thanks Marie, it actually was taken yesterday. I neglected to reset the date on my camera. I'll give it a little more sun and check back in
     
  16. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Bump for Judy Glock since she bought my auction plant from this one.
    Since these pics, it's throwing really oak like leaves. I'll take updated pics soon but the light is really crappy right now.
    Anyone have pics of their irresistible for comparison? I've ruled out Prez Reagan, just don't see the resemblance on anything I've seen up to now. Not that my newbie observations mean squat :D
     
  17. ScotTi

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    Here are pics of what I purchased as Pres. Reagan last fall at the USF sale. This plant is growing in heavy sun, Brens plant looks diffrent.
     

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  18. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Some updated pics from this morning...the leaves are all over the place. Broad, semi oak, oak. The only thing consistent is the spots
     

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  19. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    and more
     

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  20. Borgy230

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    I still say irrestiable, maybe thats sporting? look at the old leaves, the shape, pattern, colors are deffinilty Irresistable, the new ones look totally different. will they change?
     
  21. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Rob,
    I've never seen irresistable, it's not in the wiki yet nor listed in Dr. Brown's book. Do you have a pic for comparison?
     
  22. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Here's mine. Keep in mind that almost ALL of the leaves are from after this past winter. I cut everything back to bare stems as this plant is on the north side of the garden and was beat up by the wind. I believe you may have both President Reagan and Irresistible in the same pot. The one thing I've noticed on the Irresistible is that one shoulder is blunt and the other sharp - notice the detail in the third picture. But there are so many leaves on yours that also look like many of the President Reagans I have in the ground that I'm thinking you have 2 plants in the same pot.
     

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  23. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Ricky, thanks for the pics.
    Yours look so red and more upright than mine but it could be because I did not have it in strong enough light. I've since moved it into strong morning light with dappled afternoon shade. We'll see what becomes of it.
    You may be right, there may be a couple plants in this container. There are currently 5 stems minus the one Judy bought at auction. Perhaps I'll divide them in spring and see what happens too. Maybe President Reagan hit on Irresistible ans I've got the best of both now. :p
     
  24. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Bren - you have a good eye on purchasing some very nice crotons. I hope Santa Claus brought you some ID tags for Christmas so you can keep your ID's going. :p
     
  25. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Irrest 1.jpg Irrest 2.jpg Irrestistable
     
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