Butia Hybrid Pictures

Discussion in 'PALM TREES - WHERE TROPICAL STARTS' started by ScotTi, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. ScotTi

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    Marcel, Great to hear the palms are growing for you. How about a few pictures of the palms.
     
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    updated pictures 12/01/09
     

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    Update on the Variegated Butiagrus : Variegation is still appearing on new leaves and trunk is getting red. The twin seedling looks to be a Butiagrus also.
     

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    and the variegation continues...
     

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    For the second winter in a row this Butiagrus is yellowing out. It seems this palm can not take cool/cold. The palm pushed only 4 fronds last year with the first frond being stunted after the cold of last Winter. I have not put this baby to the frost test yet, as I do not think it will be able take frost.Maybe the variegation makes this palm less hardy?
     
  6. Alicehunter2000

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    Very cool that you have a viable seed producing butiagrus. About what percentage of the seed do you think is viable.....maybe these hybrids should not be called "Mules" anymore. Great pictures.
     
  7. Alicehunter2000

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    I just realized this thread is 3 pages long......I think my question above has already been answered.
     
  8. Dypsisdean

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    No harm done. You are among friends. :)
     
  9. ScotTi

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    So far 1 out of 100s. I have a few hundred seed in soil now to see if I can get another. I had better luck crossing a Butia with Butiagrus pollen and its a nice looking palm.
     
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    Update ! The on the hybrid raised from a seed off of my Butiagrus maybe crossed back with Butia. The palm is now showing signs of teeth and a very black/brown leaf base.
     

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    Update ! Here is a few pictures of the ButiaXButiagrus. Leaflets are spaced further apart than on the parents, still has a blue/gray tint to the leaves. I am thinking the trunk will thicken this summer as of now it looks thin compared to the other hybrids.
     

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    Here are a few shots of the palms from another hybrid cross I did. The cross was Butia with a S.rom with a very thick trunk and big foxtail like leaves. These babys have soft droopy leaves at this time.
     

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  13. Mike Evans

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    Scott, Looks like you are doing some fantastic work w/ the hybrids. I would like to come out & visit your garden sometime. I do not know if I ever met you at some of the CFPACS meetings. Great thread you have. I have been getting started w/ Butiagrus also. If you are ever in the St Pete area, stop by for a garden tour.
     
  14. ScotTi

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    Mike, If you are ever over this way (Citrus Park/Westchase) come by for a visit. I would enjoy a garden tour of your garden sometime. Are you working your own hybrid cross? Scott
     
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    This cross using Butiagrus pollen back to S. rom is looking good.
     

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    I'm sorry scott for replying so late.
    Here are some pictures. They look good. I have to mention, that the butyagrus is growing almost three times as fast as the red leaf based capitata.
    On the last picture is also a capitata odorata its growing speed is equal to the red leaf based capitata.

    Marcel
     

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  17. ScotTi

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    Marcell, Thanks for the update, they are looking good.:)
     
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    Scott,

    I'll have to post a picture of the mule you gave me a yr or so back. It's really picking up steam now! Stand by.....
     
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    Scott, here are the pictures. Thanks again :eek:
     

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  20. ScotTi

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    Bren, The Butiagrus is looking great. I have noticed that after a year of ground planting they really pick up speed. Yours looks as it is starting the leaf-twist now. Thanks for posting the pics.
     
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    Update: Leaf stem now shows a little variegation. This palm has pushed only 2 new fronds this year so far. This Butiagrus is really slow.
     

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    Update Hybrid #4: (From Oct 1996 seed) 11 new leaves have pushed out in 2010. Still has a more plumose leaf. Palm height aprox. 10' to top of frond/4.5' to emerging spear.
     

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    Update Hybrid grown from Butiagrus seed 2006. This palm has not grown as fast as a regular Butiagrus. Palm has pushed 6 new leaves so far this year. Base of trunk has not fattened at this stage. Fronds are also shorter and a few teeth are noticed on lower leaf stems. Palm height is aprox. 5' to top of frond / 23" to emerging spear.
     

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    Update ButiaxButiagrus still holding the wide spaced leaflets.
     

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    Update Butia x S.romxButia ( Butia mother x the reverse cross of S.rom x Butia) Best guess at this time of mature size of this hybrid, will be close to Butia. Fronds are shorter and plant is more compact. :cool:
     

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  26. rpebinger

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    Great looking cross (re-cross) Scott. This looks a good bit more finely pinnate than a traditional looking Butyagrus. :cool: Another great hybrid. I can't wait to give that hybridizing thing a go. Keep up the great work!
     
  27. ScotTi

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    Rich, I am going to do the re-cross again. I did it over the summer, but I did not protect the seed and they taken by the squirrels.
     
  28. ScotTi

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    The outlook for the variegated Butiagrus is not looking good. The palm only pushed 3 new leaves this year. The palm is now showing browning from the past weeks cold. The plant has not seen a freeze or frost but looks to hate cold.
     
  29. Jim in Los Altos

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    Very festive!
     
  30. ScotTi

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    Update 6-11-11 hybrid (post 91 and 104) planted in ground this spring.
     

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    Update 6-11-11 hybrid in post 105. Still showing smaller fronds, but growing fast.
     

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    Here are two more examples of my past Butiagrus hybrids. The first 3 pics are from Larry (spockvr6) growing in Tarpon Springs Fl. Pic #1 2006 planted out as 3 gal. Pictures 2 and 3 taken 2011. Pic #4 is at Larrys fathers house planted out from a 3 gal. in 2006 or 2007. Thanks for the pictures Larry.
     

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    Debra, Here are some pics: #1 mother Butia, #2 & #3 daddy Butiagrus (#2 also offspring hybrid from #1) Pics 4and 5 offspring.
     

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    Update: The 5 year old Butiagrus offspring palm is pushing a spathe from a leafbase 2 feet from ground. :cool:
     

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  35. Dypsisdean

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    Thanks for the updates.

    Speaking of updates - what ever happened to that Freaky Queen?
     
  36. ScotTi

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    Dean, The Freaky Queen was removed and the rooted top clumps now are growing on at Tatsuo's place. Maybe he will post a update soon.
     
  37. Dypsisdean

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    Yes, I remember the rooted top. I was wondering how big, or what shape, it had turned into at this point.
     
  38. Ray in BrandonFL

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    Aye Scott!
    WhatsUp buddy...
    I finally made it over and got registered here...

    Is that my mulie in post #113 ...the last picture
    Thanks again.

    ~Ray.
     
  39. ScotTi

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    Welcome Ray! You have a good eye as that is the mule you got. Now that you have registered you have to post pics. :D
     
  40. Ray in BrandonFL

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    Alrighty then. Here it is... Planted out Jan 1, 2012
     

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