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Burretiokentia grandiflora

Discussion in 'WIKI ARTICLE DISCUSSIONS' started by pogobob, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. pogobob

    pogobob Member

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    B. grandiflora

    Discussion thread for B. grandiflora. If you would like to add a comment, click the Post Reply button.
     
  2. pogobob

    pogobob Member

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    Re: B. grandiflora

    That looks exactly like Koghensis, right down to the flower.
     
  3. Dypsisdean

    Dypsisdean Administrator Staff Member

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    Re: B. grandiflora

    Hmmmmmmmm,

    I checked, and they are both accepted names. Crownal region looks a little different to me. But I am keying only off of Jeff and Geoff.
     
  4. MatNC

    MatNC Member

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    Hi all,

    koghiensis show many much more leaves. And pretty erected leaves ! brown/orange colored new leaves for koghiensis. Much more bigger fruit for grandiflora. Much more space between grandiflora's leaflets. Don't need to talk about the size of the grandiflora's inflorescence... Grandiflora is pretty rare in the wild and in cultivation.

    Mat.
     
  5. Dypsisdean

    Dypsisdean Administrator Staff Member

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    I have a Kogi and you're right, it does look like that. I have never seen a confirmed B. grandiflora or a pic.

    I may be going to Jeff's sometime in the next month, or at least meeting with him somewhere. I'll show him the pic and confirm what he knows.
     
  6. MatNC

    MatNC Member

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    Re: B. grandiflora

    http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=30876

    According to this pic I'm pretty Sure this palm from Jeff is a grandiflora. Couldn't be dumasii due to inflo/infruct. Couldn't be koghiensis due to crown area and size of existing fruits.

    There is something I would like to clarify. I said grandiflora's inflorescence are bigger than koghiensis. That's right but not so much. Most important difference is about flowers themselves. Really bigger on grandiflora. An other thing is that koghiensis inflo/infruct have many much more "stem" than grandiflora.

    Those differences (number of "stem" and size of flowers) could be easly seen on those following koghiensis pics. For grandiflora's flower size reference please take the new cal palm book and take a look p67 plate27 picD with Jean-Paul Tivollier.

    http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/images/0/0b/Burretiokoginf.jpg

    http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/images/8/80/Burretiokentia_koghiensis_flower.jpg

    Saw them in the wild this past weekend. Awesome trip.

    Mat.
     
  7. ellidro

    ellidro Active Member

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    Re: B. grandiflora

    Here is an updated pic of the same plant in Marcus's garden but with fruit.

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  8. MatNC

    MatNC Member

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    Very interesting pics to compare with koghiensis or dumasii. Many thanks.

    Mat.
     
  9. Dypsisdean

    Dypsisdean Administrator Staff Member

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    Re: B. grandiflora

    Thanks for the pic Nick. (Almost wrote picnic) :D

    If you want to upload the Hi-Res version to the wiki, I'll put it on the B. grandiflora page. When uploaded to the forum, pics are automatically downsized.
     

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