Are these really 3 different Crotons???

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by fawnridge, Nov 28, 2010.

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  1. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    All scanned from The Book.
    Daisy Ortegas - William Craig (2) - Macarthurii
    If I was a betting man, I'd say these three appear to be the same.
     

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  2. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    The unofficial correction list for Dr Browns book pg 27 Daisy Ortegas is William Craig.
     
  3. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    The last one looks different to me.
     
  4. koki

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    I had never thought that William Craig would be a contender for "the most beautiful croton in the world," but wait until you see the William Craig at the Glock's house. Wow!:)
     
  5. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have a photo of a Daisy Ortegas?

    Yes, the last one does look different, until you look at the older leaves and compare them to the William Craig photos. I've never seen a Macarthurii, but the one in the book looks very similar several William Craig that I've grown where the leaves went to heavy green.
     
  6. Judy Glock

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    Ricky, We have a McArthurii. It is a very old croton and looks nothing like my William Craig. Hope you can make it over here Dec. 11!

    Judy
     
  7. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Judy - I'd love to come, but it's just too much on Karen. Make sure everyone takes photos, so I can sit here and drool!
     
  8. ScotTi

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    I read in another post here that D.O. has a orange outline on leaf edge on some leaves. W.C. has no orange outline. Here are pictures that Phil posted some time back of his D.O. * OK you are not going to be able to click the pic for larger view to see the outline color. Maybe Phil will repost the pictures here.
     

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    The out of color Croton I found this summer was given a ID of a W.C. or D.O., at that time the plant had very little color. Here is a pic of the leaves as it looks now showing the orange outlined edge. I hope the other colors return on the leaves. I belive it is a D.O.
     

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  10. Moose

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    Update: Sorry to report that a rogue cutting of this croton has ocurred. Just stems are left.... at least that is what the rumor is ? :eek:

    LOL :p
     
  11. koki

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    They have a large cage rigged Rube Goldberg style that dangles over their William Craig. One twitch and it drops, and it's big enough to catch a Moose! LOL
     
  12. Phil Stager

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    here's the pics reposted of the Daisy Ortegas 9according to the purple tag on it)
     

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  13. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Phil - I'd have a hard time believing that Daisy Ortegas is the not the same as the William Craig photos above.
     
  14. Moose

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    Gee Phil, mine looks exactly like yours and has a purple tag on it reading Daisy Ortega as well. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    I will admit, I still can't see a difference(much) from W.C. and a Daisy O. But, my Daisy Ortegas I recently sold were given that ID from none other than Bob A. I still have a decent size plant in a pot(D.O.), this might just be another plant to haul over for inspection at the upcoming Glock's garden tour. And to compare it side be side with a William Craig.
     
  16. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    I never had seen a difference Jeff until seeing the ones you sold in October. Now I can spot a difference but couldn't describe them to you. I have to see the plants to distinguish the two. For one thing, WC leaves seem bigger.
     
  17. Moose

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    So are you saying that size does matter Ray? :confused:
     
  18. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Well hell yeah!
     

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