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Another one to ID

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by ScotTi, Sep 19, 2009.

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  1. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    This one was given to me a few years ago and has never grown much.
     

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  2. fawnridge

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    That's the Red King. It's a very slow grower, hates the sun, and often will sit in the ground as a rooted cutting for a year or two before doing anything at all.
     
  3. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Thanks for the ID Ricky!
     
  4. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    My Red King was knocked back this past Winter. The plant survived and here is the Red King now.
     

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  5. Moose

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    Possible Norma? How much sun is it getting? How big are the leaves Scott?

    The first photo from lasy year looks like my Norma which is in very heavy shade. :confused:
     
  6. fawnridge

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    It's very likely that The Red King, or at least what I was sold as The Red King, is actually Norma.
     
  7. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Plant is growing in light shade with filtered sun. Leaves are 6" long.
     
  8. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Ricky -who knows, I remain confused most of the time on I.D.'s . :p
     
  9. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    My Norma is in high light like Scott's and it's showing a ton of orange unlike Scott's. My Norma has also never had an all red leaf like his.
     
  10. Borgy230

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    Norma varies greatly. I know parts of my plant are almost solid black, parts have amazing color, some are just green and yellow.

    I believe the plant is Norma also
     
  11. ScotTi

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    Here is a picture of the plant taken in its orig. location of total shade before it was relocated to the Croton garden. Pic taken 7/11/09.
     

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    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's Norma.
     
  13. junglegal

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    Now that latest pic Scott, that's the Norma I have. Amazing how viable these plants can look...
     
  14. ScotTi

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    I went digging into old pic files to find a older pic of it. I could see it in pics back to 2000 but could not make out the colors. The tag will be changed to Norma. Here is another for ID.
     

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  15. fawnridge

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    The only name I've ever heard for that one is the "American Thai". It's not a Thai hybrid, but it looks like one. I've given all my Thai hybrids that look like this the same name - "Bang a Gong", a little tribute to the T Rex song.
     
  16. ScotTi

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    I have been calling it Mammys Girl. It was a sport removed from my Mammy last year.
     
  17. junglegal

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    That sport is a beauty Scott! I'm sorry I missed seeing that one on Sunday, I'm a sucker for orange. I hope I get one of those some day
     
  18. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Nice plant!! Looks a very lot like what the big box stores occasionaly carry as a 'Thai hybrid' which proved a lot hardier than the true Thai ones I had.
     
  19. fawnridge

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    Second that, Phil. I bought 20 of those Thai hybrids when Tropical World first got them - $25 a piece! Three of them are still alive and it's a good thing there's something else growing up around each one of them. Nothing but 18" stems with a few scraggly leaves. But my "American Thai" is doing great. And the funny thing, you can see in the picture, it's surrounded by a Thai hybrid Crown of Thorns! All four of these Crotons have been in the ground for six years. Survived all three hurricanes and the coldest winter on record.
     

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  20. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    I forgot to show you that one:( If it turns out to be something you will be first to get one.
     
  21. junglegal

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    Aw, I appreciate that. I hope mine sports like yours some day! From your other post, looks like you need to get that other bed cleared out opposite of your current croton patch for less sun ;) You've built up quite the collection from what I've seen!

    Unrelated, try posting all those pineapples etc you want to rid yourself of on craigs list. I'm always surprised how quickly I get rid of my extras on there! More room for crotons then! :D
     

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