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Another Drive By Shooting

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by palmisland, Jan 6, 2011.

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  1. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    This was under an oak canopy. Absolutley no cold damage. It must be 10 ft+. Is it Buddy? Whatever it is it made me turn around.

    Randy:)
     

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  2. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    This one was in full sun in Coral Springs. Not sure of the name though.
     

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  3. palmisland

    palmisland Well-Known Member

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    This is a pic of the entire plant, on the shady side. :p
     

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  4. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    Buddy and Queen Victoria I believe
     
  5. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    Wow what a great specimen!
    Looks way better than the Buddy in the wiki...
     
  6. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking your right there Mr Borgy.:)

    Randy, thanks for spotting these, I must admit, you share this sickness with many of us!:)
     
  7. RonDEZone7a

    RonDEZone7a Active Member

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    Wow - I need a Buddy like that!
     
  8. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    So these can go in the wiki as Buddy and Queen Victoria?
     
  9. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Well, if some of the others here would reply, one way or another, than your question would be answered. But we do need some participation from others.
     
  10. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    Buddy appears to be correct, but the second one is not Queen Victoria. There's too much pink and I believe have cuttings from that same plant or one on the other side of that complex, that was identified as a "Veitchii" by two groups of experts who passed through my garden. Take a look at page 55 for Queen Victoria.
     
  11. Borgy230

    Borgy230 Active Member

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    absolutely no way thats Veitchii
     
  12. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Who Wee, Wee Doggies! Experts? This plant in question is certainly not a Veitchii. And I'll bet the 20 acre nursery on that!:)
     
  13. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    I have the identical plant in the garden and it came from the same complex (i.e. the same installer as there are a lot of them.) I had been calling it Queen Victoria for years until the first Croton crawl here. Everyone said, no, it's not Queen Victoria, it's one of the Veitchii.
     

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  14. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    Sure looks like Queen Victoria in the first pic that started this, and Ricky's sure looks like a Vietchii to me. The differences are subtle but are there due to good pics of the entire plants with enough detail.
     
  15. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Ricky,

    Sorry, but it's a Queen Victoria. Now, I was looking at your other croton in the upper left corner and thought for a minute maybe that was your Veitchii, but it looks more like a Nestor. If you would like to add a Veitchii to your collection, I have several small ones coming along and would be more than happy to give you one.
     
  16. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    The one in the upper left is Van Buren.
     
  17. Jeff Searle

    Jeff Searle Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I can live with that, thanks.:)
     
  18. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    And so I was right all along, that mine IS a Queen Victoria? Jeez, it's great that we have so many "experts" here. Well, if mine is a Queen Victoria then I'll go with the ID that Randy's shot is one as well.
     
  19. Croton Guru

    Croton Guru Banned

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    No Win with the Croton Name Game.
     
  20. Croton Guru

    Croton Guru Banned

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    According to Frank Browns Book Veitchii is the one posted, But im sure it will be disputed. Then again a Picture reference would be nice. Funny thing is if you compare old prints and photos and descriptions on Crotons we are all wrong on our names. For Jeff (Example) I saw a Martha Brooks Photo from long ago, Its thin Leafed and long. Not what we call it today :(. In this forum we are a very small group, we call our plants and others many different names. In my opinion on the Name Game is everyone is right and everyone is wrong. Simply a no win, Maybe thats why theres not much information out there on Crotons. So many look alikes so many growing conditions.
     

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