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And here's to you Mrs. Robinson...

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Crotonologist, Nov 30, 2010.

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  1. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    We'd like to know a little bit about you for our files,
    Hey hey hey,

    Are you the same plant as Reliance,
    'cause it's hard to see the difference,

    Hey hey hey,
    What do y'all say...
     

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  2. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    Now that I look at the two photos above they do look different...
    Problem is I just bought a Mrs. Robinson that arrived in the mail today and it sure looks a lot like my Reliance in the above picture...
    Anyone know if they are the same thing?
     
  3. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    The right one is definitely Reliance. The left one is something else - look at all the venation in it. Very nice.
     
  4. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    Yeah, but that's the Mrs. Robinson photo from Triad Plants and also Mercer Botanicals...
    I think I just bought another Reliance that was sold as a Mrs. Robinson.
     
  5. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    I purchased the plant on the left as "Kelly" many years ago from former Croton Society Prez Scott Dozier.
     
  6. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    And the fog thickens...
    :confused:
     
  7. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    No fog on this one. It's been Kelly for sometime. The name Mrs. Robinson is not a valid name outside the trade. It does however remind me of a classic Simon & Garfunkel song. You have Kelly on the left and Johanna Coppinger Sport (Reliance) on the right. Some folks also refer to Reliance as Willy.
     
  8. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    Thanks for the clarification - the fog was all on my end....
     
  9. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Ray - is Kelly the same the Colin Kelly? :confused:
     
  10. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ron, I've never seen Colin Kelly.
     
  11. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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  12. Phil Stager

    Phil Stager Well-Known Member

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    here's a pick of Colin Kelly; original came from Blauman's back in 2001 and it has been a slow grower for me.
    Other is of Leota from Scott Dozier; not a good example since it is buried in shade and quite similar to very first pic in this thread.
    Most Coppinger varieties like Reliance, FDR, etc. have 'shoulders' but are not tri-lobed or semi oak.
     

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  13. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Phil, that's Aubrey Christian on the left. Look at photo gallery number 3 on the original Croton Society website.
     
  14. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    I was under the impression that Aubrey Christian did not have such definitive veining like seen in Phil's "Colin Kelly"? :confused:
     
  15. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Ron, look at Crotons.org photo gallery #3
     
  16. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Thanks Ray, now I am really confused. :confused:
     
  17. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    Fresh pic of the croton from Exotic Angel Plants ID'd here last year as 'Reliance'
     

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  18. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    And the airlayer from ebay sold as 'Mrs. Robinson'...
     

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  19. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Esteemed Member

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    Mrs Robinson is very nice,Have not seen this one before.I wonder if the Ebay seller has the name right??
     
  20. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    Probably not...
    Ray said he bought the same plant years ago from the Croton Society prez as 'Kelly'.
     
  21. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Ray - I was under the impression that Willy looks just like a Reliance with the exception that it has a wide coloring band paralleling the main leaf vein. The Reliance coloring along the main leaf vein is much narrower and pronounced. :confused:
     
  22. bags

    bags Member

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    This was from Home Depot and had no ID, but it looks like Mrs. Robinson to me.[​IMG]
     
  23. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    Willy and Reliance are the same plant but neither are this "Mrs. Robinson" plant pictured above.

    Mrs. Robinson is a bogus name. It's Kelly.

    Phil, here's the Aubrey Christian link from the original CS webpage.
    http://crotons.org/gals/AubreyChristian.htm
     
  24. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    Not to be confused with the non-bogus Mrs. Robertson found on page 34 of A CODIAEUM ENCYCLOPEDIA CROTONS OF THE WORLD. Is anyone growing this one? Don't recall seeing one on any of the many Croton tours. :confused:
     
  25. kwmarko

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    Mrs  Robinson.jpg Not a real great pic, but this is my mrs robinson ..... or should I rephrase that comment as " what I believeve to be Mrs. Robinson"
     
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  26. Kingdavid

    Kingdavid Esteemed Member

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    AND THAT WOULD BE CORRECT its identicle to my 3 that i have , all three have different colors , in different light condition but all same leaf shape. Completely diff than reliance .....
     
  27. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    I see that, and maybe it should go in? I need help, people, because I don't know what to do. Even if initially the name was wrong, many people seem to have this as Mrs. Robinson, so it seems to have become the common name and perhaps it should go in as Mrs. Robinson? What do you all think? I need help, people!!!
     
  28. Marie Nock

    Marie Nock Well-Known Member

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    Ana, why not enter it as an aka - Kelly aka Mrs. Robinson?
     
  29. kwtimo

    kwtimo Well-Known Member

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    CAM00850.jpg Here's what I purchased as Mrs. Robinson recently. Mark and I might have gotten it from the same vendor. The photos don't show the vibrant red that this plant has.
     

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  30. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    I have a green/yellow Willy/Reliance I took this air layer two years ago from a plant that was killed from a falling tree branch. It is the only one I have seen that holds the green/yellow only very faint red blush on some leaves. image.jpg image.jpg Second picture shows the normal color on the plant to the right along with Nestor and a few others in close and cuddley.
     
  31. annafl

    annafl Esteemed Member

    Marie, I think that's a great solution. Whatever it's name or names, it is a lovely plant and deserves a place. Now it will have two places. David, thanks for your persistence, and thanks to the others who showed their Mrs. Robinsons/Kelly(ies) to show how widespread they are and that they were obtained with the same name. We solved this one, now if we could solve some others and clear up a little more fog?
     
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  32. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    image.jpg image.jpg This is a 20 month old volunteer seedling on the west end of our pool deck. Should we name it Benjamin Braddock? Circa 1967.
     
  33. kwmarko

    kwmarko Active Member

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    Just tought I' d post my reliance... as to what relivance I honestly don't recall...... Ha Ha....

    the planter box to the side is one of last year keys box turtle.... stopped by for some banana and papaya...and finished off with a lil bit of homegrown carambola... lol..... have a white rabbit runnin round too....
     

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  34. kwmarko

    kwmarko Active Member

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    Reliance.jpg Just tought I' d post my reliance... as to what relivance I honestly don't recall...... Ha Ha....
     
  35. Native son

    Native son Well-Known Member

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    FYI Benjamin Braddock is Dustin Hoffman's character in the movie version of this thread. just saying image.jpg . Sport on Plaid Oak.
     
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