I'm going to start a bunch of them on the south side of the garden on the 15th. I figure at these temperatures they'll take around 6 to 8 weeks. The long term forecast is for above average temperatures and more rain. Might as well take advantage of an early start to the growing season. I have a 9' Johannis with at least 10 long limbs that needs to come back down so you can see the leaves. Also a bunch of Gloriosa that are hanging over a pathway. Nothing really exciting, but they'll make nice plants at three in a pot.