Afd-7

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by ScotTi, Jan 22, 2011.

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  1. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Afd-7 ?
     

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  2. fawnridge

    fawnridge Well-Known Member

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    I would say yes, based on the picture on page 107 in The Book. The splotching might be a determining factor, though. I don't know if AFD #7 gets those splotches or not. But the leaf shape, veining, and color look very similar.
     
  3. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Ricky, The plant had the name AFD 7 on the pot when I saw it today. I knew I did not have a plant that looked like it. It looks like the book picture to me. I picked up 2, 2.5gal plants @ 4.49 each. You never know what you may find when you go to buy a gallon of paint. :rolleyes:
     
  4. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    So give up your source Scott:p
     
  5. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    LOWES in Oldsmar :)
     
  6. junglegal

    junglegal Esteemed Member

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    Thanks! Hitting Lowe's in St. Pete tomorrow!
     
  7. rpebinger

    rpebinger Active Member

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    Scott,

    Your AFD7 looks strikingly similar to the AFD5 ID'd by Ricky in my thread posted earlier this evening.

    Being a 'newbie extraordinaire' - Wiskey Tango Foxtrot does "AFD" stand for?

    I'm all into the croton thing - just way more confusing for my 'palm thinking' M.O.?

    BTW - don't be fooled by Lowes "hi-def" color advertisments. There product is sound - but their 'specialists' in the mulch, barbeque, lighting, paint department can't hold a stick to other local paint retailers.....my $0.02.

    Thanks,

    Rich
     
  8. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    AFD= Azienda Floreale Diem
     
  9. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    I saw your post and I do not think yours are AFD#5. I saw those at Lowes today in the house plant section, The "Angel Plant" plant tag had Petra (not) on them. but they looked to much like G. Superbum to me. I have to many G. Superbums as it is.
     
  10. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Bren, If they do not have them tomorrow, wait and they will be in every Lowes soon I bet.
     
  11. rpebinger

    rpebinger Active Member

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    IMO, the beauty of the big box noted above - is that they still have a clearance/mark down rack wherein they offer cold damaged plants. At 'the other' place - they have carte blanche to return whatever they feel to the growers/nurseries - who have an 'orange gun' to their head(s).

    Much appreciation for the acronym clarification and best wishes to all for making it through this wretched winter that has absolutely wreaked havoc on my inland "in-no way even sub-tropical" garden.

    Best Wishes,

    Rich
     
  12. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Rich, The markdown rack is a beauty of deals at times. I was able to pick up a half dozen Mrs Iceton for a little over $2 each. They looked great and I was shocked to see them on the markdown rack.
     
  13. Crazy for Crotons

    Crazy for Crotons Well-Known Member

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    That's AFD#7 in Scott's photo. AFD #5 resembles another croton Elaine.
     
  14. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    Rich,

    AFD was (is?) a nursery in Italy that hybridized crotons for the indoor foliage trade back in the 1970's including the main croton sold in the US today...
    Some of their crotons include:
    AFD 5
    AFD 6
    AFD 7
    AFD 8
    AFD 9
    AFD 10
    Excellent
    Norma (Ernest de la Rue X Bravo)
    Petra (Fournier X Norma)
     
  15. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    Did they have AFD 1, AFD 2, 3, 4 ?? 0r did they start at #5
     
  16. ScotTi

    ScotTi Esteemed Member

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    found the answer in the book. No 1-4s
     
  17. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    My guess is that they had numbers 1-4 but they probably never made the cut and ended up in the compost pile...

    Or maybe some of them did make the cut and received names, as in 'Norma' and 'Petra' and 'Excellent'....
     
  18. rpebinger

    rpebinger Active Member

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    Thank you both for helping me in my understanding.

    Is there any general reference lists the cold hardiness by cultivar for crotons? I've seen many such lists for palms - but I am quite certain that there are not nearly the number of hardy crotons as there are palms?
     
  19. ScotTi

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    Did the other AFDs also receive names? AFD 5 is in the trade as Karen, Fantasia and Fantasy. We know from the book that they had AFD 5-10, but I can only find info on 5&7. BTW The Azienda Floreale Diem Nursery is now gone.
     
  20. Crotonologist

    Crotonologist Active Member

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    As far as I know there are no cold hardy crotons, as in being able to withstand freezing temps for any period of time, though many can bounce back well from short term freezes from what I am hearing from the Florida folks...
    Apparently some crotons are more cold tolerant than others when it comes to windy cold fronts sweeping through Florida with temps in the 30's F, and will hold onto thier foliage better and generally look better than less cold tolerant cultivars which may defoliate or even die.

    We have a number of cold hardy palms growing in south Louisiana, but I have never seen any outdoor crotons that survive from year to year. Most years here our winter lows are in the low to mid 20's F though some years we get into the teens and very rarely into the single digits F.

    I would guess that there are not too many landscape crotons that survive in Florida's inland areas for many years much north of the Orlando area or perhaps the Ocala area... anyone know how far north they survive in Florida?
     

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