A Parade of Unknowns

Discussion in 'THE CROTON SOCIETY' started by Moose, Oct 16, 2011.

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  1. Moose

    Moose Esteemed Member

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    After and before photos.

    Eddie that looks to be a Freckles to me. Thanks for posting! :)
     

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  2. Moose

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    Updated photos from 1/10/11 and the before photo.
     

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  3. Moose

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    Updated photos from 1/10/11 and the before photo. Veitchii perhaps? :confused:
     

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  4. Moose

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    Updated photos from 1/10/11 and the before photo.

    Yellow Banana or Yellow Excurrans as suggested by Ricky? Maybe something else? :confused:
     

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  5. Moose

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    Updated photos and before Photo. :confused:
     

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  6. Moose

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  7. Moose

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    Updated photos from 01/10/2012 and before photo
     

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  8. Moose

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    This one appears to be slow. Hopefully it will have a better growth rate as Spring arrives. Upated photos Jan. 10, 2012 and before photo.
     

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  9. Moose

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    This one was stepped up into a three gallon container, flushing some nice colorful leaves on the updated photos. Before photo follows.
     

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  10. Crazy for Crotons

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    The last one resembles Caribbean Star.
     
  11. Moose

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    First photo is from 01/10/2012. Last is the original photo.

    Ray commented that it looked William Craig-ish from the first post.
     

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  12. Moose

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    Dr. Alix I presume. Ray also concurs, don't think it could be something else.

    First twp photos from 01/10/2012, last photo from original post.
     

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  13. Moose

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    The leaves are getting bigger on this one. Don't have a clue?

    First two photos from 01/10/2012. Third photo from original post.
     

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  14. Crazy for Crotons

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    General Paget?
     
  15. Moose

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    In post #53, you say General Paget Ray? It has been slower than most of the other cuttings so hopefully its not

    It may be safe to assume this is Freckles. I don't know hat else it could be? First two photos are from Jan. 10, 2012, Next two are from the original post.
     

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  16. Jeff Searle

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    Ron,

    That's a beautiful form of Freckles. Good spotting. Is this your first Freckles to add to your garden, or do you already have one planted?
     
  17. Moose

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    Jeff - no I did not have a Freckles. I am very pleased to have this one. It was my understanding that Freckles had a moderate growth rate. This one has been a very steady grower for me so far. Chris (pocomo) usually heads for this "parade of unknowns" grouping on every visit. We spend a bit of time trying to guess at the possible ID's. Time should tell but there seems to be some very nice potential on most of them. :cool:

    All these plants are growing in a pretty shaded area under a large Jacaranda tree. Because of the so far mild winter, the Jacaranda did not defoliate as much as it has in the past. I actually had to prune back some lower branches so these crotons could get more sun light. As the sun makes its way back to the north, this area should see more light.

    During our last cold front, I moved all these crotons into full sun to help warm them up. All the plants were staggered so that the sun light would hit their black plastic pots to aid in the warming of the roots.

    Back to Unknown #17 - this plant is getting some very nice large leaves. First two photos are from Jan. 10, 2012 photo shoot, the last was from my first post.
     

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  18. Moose

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    The after & before photos.
     

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  19. Moose

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    Rheedii? After (2) and before photos :
     

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  20. Moose

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    I was thinking this one was looking a bit like Prince of Orange. When I mentioned this to Chris (pocomo), he checked out the plant and said he didn't think so. :( I know this croton has not achieved its potential yet, any ideas what it could be? :confused:

    The first two are the latest photos, the last photo was its first posted photo.
     

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  21. Jeff Searle

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    Ron,

    I agree with Chris and also would have my doubts up to now that it might be Prince of Orange. We'll just have to watch it and by summer, it should be showing it's full potential.
     
  22. Moose

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    This one is starting to take on a strong resemblance to Eleanor Fischler. Chris (pocomo) and I put it next to another Eleanor Fischler that came from Marie Nock. We really could not tell any difference? :confused:

    After photos followed by before photo.
     

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  23. Jeff Searle

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    Ron,

    As you know, I have this same plant. But, it's not E/F. My plant is getting some good size and to me it looks closer to an Eleanor Roosevelt, but it's not. Who knows, it might just be an unnamed seedling but Bob Alonzo could know it as something else. He knew this collection very well.
     
  24. Crazy for Crotons

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    Eleanor Rigby
     
  25. Phil Stager

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    ..and here's a few pics of what is something close to Eleanor Fischerfrom two different plants - pretty cold hardy and a fast grower; Leaves are 9"+ long
     

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  26. Moose

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    After photos from 01/10/2012. It has grown alot since taking these photos, getting large leaves. :)

    Last photo from original post.
     

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  27. Moose

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    I think this one is looking Charles Rutherfordish? :confused:

    After & before pic:
     

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  28. Moose

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    My how they have grown ... :cool:
     

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  29. Moose

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    and ... :p
     

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  30. Kipjanet

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    She would not be so lonely sitting in Moose land
     

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  31. Moose

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    Its interesting how people will post a small rooted cutting and ask for an ID. Here are updated photos of the crotons, amazing to what they look like now.

    These cuttings were taken from Dr. Frank Brown's garden after his plants suffered through the harsh winter of 2010. His worker went back to his country to visit and was not given permission to reenter the US. Dr. Brown was not able to take care of his plants. He was very happy that the cuttings were taken to preserve his clones. We had no clue what anything was then, the plants were in that bad of shape.

    Unknown #1 - this looks like it may be AFD #5. What do you think?
     

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  32. Moose

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    Unknown #2 - it looks like it may be Van Buren. What do you think?
     

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  33. Moose

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    Unknown #3 - Pretty sure this is Mammie
     

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  34. Moose

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    Unknown #4 - looks to be Caribbean Star. What do you think?
     

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  35. palmisland

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    Your ID's for the first four look spot on:cool:
     
  36. Moose

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    Unknown #5 - I have no clue what named variety this could be. It is a very colorful plant. Any ideas what this croton's name may be? :confused:
     

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  37. Moose

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    Unknown #6. The leaves are too large to be a Veitchii (all kinds). The leaves develope very nice pinks with age. Any Ideas what it could be?
     

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  38. Moose

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    Unknown #7 - looks like it is a Banana to me.
     

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  39. Moose

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    Unknown #8 - got no clue what its name is. Its got nice sized leaves ...
    Any thoughts? Seen anything like it?
     

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  40. Moose

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    Unknown #9 - No clue as to the name of this variety. Its pretty fast and has very nice colors. It may be fast because the roof runoff hits it. Flowers and sets seed alot too. Any IDeas??? :confused:
     

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